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Quote (Norlander @ 25 May 2023 17:42)
This is not Zamuzhny. This is his double for sure. Pay attention to his ears, they are more like the ears of Putin's double.



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Quote (Malopox @ 25 May 2023 18:57)


Tinfoil bicorne hat. Who could it be?
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Quote (Norlander @ 25 May 2023 15:42)
This is not Zamuzhny. This is his double for sure. Pay attention to his ears, they are more like the ears of Putin's double.


I checked: Putin is Putin, looks punchy

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Quote (Djunior @ 25 May 2023 17:02)
Cut the crap dude, no one was asking Ukraine to become their slave, stop posting this nonsense

Ukraine deliberately risked a confrontation with Russia, knowing all too well that Russia was not going to accept it (Ukraine siding with NATO)

#D1shonesty

Stay mad


Russians were asking Ukraine to be defenseless, to stop military cooperation with America.
This is basically asking to become slaves.
This is what Russia does since 18th century, first they disarm you, render you defenseless and then they take you either by military or you give up peacefully.
Russians needed 40mln Ukrainian people, because they dont have enough people themselves.
About 40% of the USSR production was in Ukraine.
Ukrainian great soil is also important as political strength, Africa needs it badly and Russia wants to have influence in Africa also.
It was very important to get control over Ukraine to rebuild USSR.
This is facts, cut the crap dude.

This post was edited by Ironfister on May 25 2023 10:05am
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Quote (Djunior @ May 25 2023 10:02am)
Cut the crap dude, no one was asking Ukraine to become their slave, stop posting this nonsense

Ukraine deliberately risked a confrontation with Russia, knowing all too well that Russia was not going to accept it (Ukraine siding with NATO)




#D1shonesty

Stay mad


Well more to the point- Ukraine did not want to risk a confrontation with Russia, and rejected the NATO cooperation overture. That was the will of the democratic government of Ukraine, and the catalyst for a minority seizing power by force to side with NATO- backed and micromanaged by NATO.
I've said for some time that cynical calculation absolutely made sense for a pragmatic Ukrainian government even if they held ideals more aligned with the west and aspired to eventual western alliance. It was just a fact that Russia held more interest and will tp act on its own back yard and America betrays every pawn it exploits in the long run. This doesn't make Yanukovych a puppet, it makes him acting in Ukraine's rational self interest.

And now we can see exactly why. Look what NATO bought for Ukraine.
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May 25 2023 10:32am
Quote (Ironfister @ 25 May 2023 18:05)
Russians were asking Ukraine to be defenseless, to stop military cooperation with America.
This is basically asking to become slaves.
This is what Russia does since 18th century, first they disarm you, render you defenseless and then they take you either by military or you give up peacefully.
Russians needed 40mln Ukrainian people, because they dont have enough people themselves.
About 40% of the USSR production was in Ukraine.
Ukrainian great soil is also important as political strength, Africa needs it badly and Russia wants to have influence in Africa also.
It was very important to get control over Ukraine to rebuild USSR.
This is facts, cut the crap dude.


This is a prime example of opinion-based reasoning. You assume things and extrapolate.

None of these are facts.

How is stopping military cooperation with America equal to slavery? Will you be enslaved by America if you refuse? North or South America? Russia doesn’t have enough people for what? 40% of USSR production of what? Oil and gas?

Why would you double down on your opinion about rebuilding USSR? Literally nobody is asking for that. People are misquoting Putin constantly who once said, full quote:

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“First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,” Putin said. “As for the Russian people, it became a genuine tragedy. Tens of millions of our fellow citizens and countrymen found themselves beyond the fringes of Russian territory.


Soviet Union built a lot of projects all around and skilled labour had to be moved there to facilitate building a nuclear power plant in Lithuania, Hydro Dam in Tajikistan, Oil Refinery in Turkmenistan, a port in Estonia, a smelter in Ukraine or an oilfield in Siberia where Azeri oil engineers were needed.

Once the Union collapsed a lot of people who identified as Russian/Soviet ended up stranded in countries which they did not associate with (eg Africa) and they had nowhere to return as their parents died for instance. This was and is one of the greatest geopolitical tragedies.

This does not mean he is seeking to rebuild USSR.

This post was edited by Malopox on May 25 2023 10:58am
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Quote (Meanwhile @ 25 May 2023 18:13)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHKpsBMrbKo


You dodged my question. What nature?

I did not want to post the video myself as it has nazi flag in the background - but you seem to have no problems with it.

Why don’t you post another drone strike video?
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May 25 2023 10:39am
Quote (Malopox @ 25 May 2023 16:35)
You dodged my question. What nature?
I did not want to post the video myself as it has nazi flag in the background - but you seem to have no problems with it.
Why don’t you post another drone strike video?


Are you talking about the black+red color ?
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Quote (Meanwhile @ 25 May 2023 19:39)
Are you talking about the black+red color ?


Try waving it in Danzig
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