Quote (Ironfister @ 25 May 2023 18:05)
Russians were asking Ukraine to be defenseless, to stop military cooperation with America.
This is basically asking to become slaves.
This is what Russia does since 18th century, first they disarm you, render you defenseless and then they take you either by military or you give up peacefully.
Russians needed 40mln Ukrainian people, because they dont have enough people themselves.
About 40% of the USSR production was in Ukraine.
Ukrainian great soil is also important as political strength, Africa needs it badly and Russia wants to have influence in Africa also.
It was very important to get control over Ukraine to rebuild USSR.
This is facts, cut the crap dude.
This is a prime example of opinion-based reasoning. You assume things and extrapolate.
None of these are facts.
How is stopping military cooperation with America equal to slavery? Will you be enslaved by America if you refuse? North or South America? Russia doesn’t have enough people for what? 40% of USSR production of what? Oil and gas?
Why would you double down on your opinion about rebuilding USSR? Literally nobody is asking for that. People are misquoting Putin constantly who once said, full quote:
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“First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,” Putin said. “As for the Russian people, it became a genuine tragedy. Tens of millions of our fellow citizens and countrymen found themselves beyond the fringes of Russian territory.
Soviet Union built a lot of projects all around and skilled labour had to be moved there to facilitate building a nuclear power plant in Lithuania, Hydro Dam in Tajikistan, Oil Refinery in Turkmenistan, a port in Estonia, a smelter in Ukraine or an oilfield in Siberia where Azeri oil engineers were needed.
Once the Union collapsed a lot of people who identified as Russian/Soviet ended up stranded in countries which they did not associate with (eg Africa) and they had nowhere to return as their parents died for instance. This was and is one of the greatest geopolitical tragedies.
This does not mean he is seeking to rebuild USSR.
This post was edited by Malopox on May 25 2023 10:58am