ETA to impeachment?

Just finished the whole documentary. A lot, mostly the 2nd half which focused on Trump, i already knew, but a lot of the historical context i did not know, like putin's history, russian mob, Felix Sater, Ukraine & Georgia's history.

So a few things i want to make sure i'm understanding, was Yulia Tymoshenko set up when she brokered the Gazprom deal with Russia correct? Or was that really a bad deal for Ukraine? A lot (if not all) crimes charged against her were phony right? (As she was cleared of charges in 2014)

Amazing documentary, thanks for sharing.

Also the SCL Group (cambridge Analytica parent companies) indirect ties to the Russian Mob (through shell companies and ukranian pro-russian oligarchs) i was unaware of and found fascinating.

We should do some FG bets... see who actually believes Trump and company are completely innocent.

ISO this

FG FT

Anyone who believes that any major politician is "completely innocent" probably doesn't spend enough time following politics in order to find the betting thread

This post was edited by Kayeto on Sep 13 2018 08:54am

hey. was Yulia Tymoshenko set up when she brokered the Gazprom deal with Russia correct? Or was that really a bad deal for Ukraine? A lot (if not all) crimes charged against her were phony right? (As she was cleared of charges in 2014)

Completely innocent is a shitty and murky standard for a bet.

Bet should be something along the line of

“Does Trump get impeached by the end of his first term”

Or

“Does congress bring impeachment charges vs Trump by end of first term”

I don't understand the meaning of "set up" in context of that question. Are you asking if she was set up by Putin? By others in her own government that were working on Putin's behalf?

The phrase "really a bad deal" is hard to evaluate because we don't have an alternate reality in which the deal was not made to compare.

The best we have to go on is that Putin didn't like the deal, which means it was probably good for Ukraine. But who knows what backroom concessions she had to make in order to get it done. It did seem awful suspicious that she was able to get a good deal at all.