Is Putin a Nazi, y or n?

Third attempt.

You really need to try harder.

This is Debating subforum. If you want me to agree or disagree you need to present an argument.

He's the president of the Russian federation. You can call him what you want but that's his function whether you like it or not.

And history is clearly against you because the Russians hate Nazis after what happened in WW2.

Tsk Tsk boys. Your hypocrisy is showing.

"Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates a dictatorship, fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, white supremacy, social Darwinism and the use of eugenics into its creed."

Hmmmm..... he fits at best 2 out of 8 , hardly a Nazi. Not at halfway point.

You seem to be quite ok with proven neonazis. Not even theoretical propaganda spooky Nazis, but straight up far right crazies that massacre people of the wrong colour and/or race.

Could you enlighten us why you associate yourself with these ideas? I’m honestly curious.

Fascism - check
disdain for liberal democracy - check
dictatorship - check
anti-communism - check
scientific racism - check (they're literally calling Ukrainians undeserving of life because of their ethnicity)

I haven't seen white supremacy or social darwinism but I wouldn't doubt he would use it if he needed to.

Fascism: https://www.politico.eu/article/the-return-of-the-f-word-and-the-laziness-of-labeling-russia-fascist/


Disdain for liberal democracy: I strongly reccomend reading up on what happened to Russia during liberal democratic 90s. You will be hard pressed to find many Russians who want to revive this experience, which is a shame as an unique chance has been lost. Here is a good video explaining:


Hollywood even made movies mocking Russian “liberal democracy” and how US consultants saw through Yeltsins bid for presidency to victory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinning_Boris

Dictatorship: not there yet, but definitely showing features of it, I would agree with an article like that: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/02/02/russia-acquiring-features-of-dictatorship-after-ukraine-invasion-study-a80122

Anti-communism: no, Communists are not banned and are in fact second most powerful political party.

Scientific racism: this is just straight up made up. Has he ever made any such claims?

This post was edited by Malopox on May 23 2023 11:54am

Tactical nukes aren't going to punch holes in lines that the Russians are capable of exploiting.

I'm also surprised by how inept/slow NATO countries are to position production lines for sustained war. Even US slow as a turtle for rearming compared to WWII rates. I'm near Iron Range and they ain't mining it anywhere near like they used too, mineral rich haven. Actually they still run boats from WWII era that's how slow the production got. Maybe outsourcing all those vehicle assembly lines screwed us bad for quick rearm. Then we got over priced Wisconsin junky ATVs

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on May 23 2023 11:55am