Quote (Ironfister @ 23 May 2023 18:09)

Less believable now?
Remember this is Russian group that attacked Putin's regime in Russia.
Those people left Ukraine, they moved to Russia. Russians in Russia. Ukraine has nothing to be blamed for.
And yes its a very smart move.
Up until now Russians didnt protect their border. They knew Ukrainians cant really go deep into Russia.
Now they have to, they need to move troops from Ukraine to Russia to protect the border.
That makes it easier for Ukraine to find holes in Russian defences in Ukraine.
And since attack was made by Russian friends of Ukraine, Ukraine cant be blamed for attack. Even if these Russians were cooperating before with Ukrainian soldiers, they arent Ukrainian.
Very smart move from the Russian patriots.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 23 May 2023 18:08)

The onus is you on to prove this
"To me it makes more sense that it was some false flag. Russian authorities still need to 'remind' the people that there is an external threat to justify the war, possible further mobilizations, etc.

I am calling that out as fallacious, as proven by the primary evidence that is available. There is no debate to be had.

Quote (Malopox @ May 23 2023 05:14pm)

“Russian friends of Ukraine” accidentally confirmed neonazis as confirmed by pro-western Bellingcat.

https://i.imgur.com/51wfoF1.jpg

Quote (Malopox @ May 23 2023 05:16pm)

That’s now how this works.

If you call somebody’s argument out - onus is on you to disprove it with arguments and/or facts.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 23 May 2023 18:17)

Question. Is genocide against Ukrainians considered a Neo-Nazi behaviour?

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 23 May 2023 18:17)

No it is absolutely how it works guy; The conspiracist can prove his point or not.

Or we can wait for Seymour Hersh to cash a fat check and write a Tolkeinesque explanation of how the Mossad and Tony Blair did it using remote controls.

Quote (Malopox @ May 23 2023 05:18pm)

You agree with me this guy is kinda sus though?

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 23 May 2023 18:20)

Because a twitter post said he is a neo-nazi? I thought you provide evidence?

Does the state sponsored genocide of Ukrainians, by Russia. Make Russia a Nazi state? And by default Putin a Nazi war criminal? y or n ?

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 23 2023 12:08pm)

The onus is you on to prove this
"To me it makes more sense that it was some false flag. Russian authorities still need to 'remind' the people that there is an external threat to justify the war, possible further mobilizations, etc.

I am calling that out as fallacious, as proven by the primary evidence that is available. There is no debate to be had.

Quote (Malopox @ May 23 2023 05:22pm)

There are literally links in the picture I posted. Here they are if you are lazy to Google:

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/09/04/the-hardcore-russian-neo-nazi-group-that-calls-ukraine-home/

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/01/02/dispatches-from-asgardsrei-ukraines-annual-neo-nazi-music-festival/


So you agree with me this guy is kinda sus?

Quote (Malopox @ 23 May 2023 18:18)

You agree with me this guy is kinda sus though?

Quote (ofthevoid @ May 23 2023 05:23pm)

I said it could be A or B, which make the most logical sense to me while the current narrative is full of holes. At no point did I say it was for sure A. There's no debate because you're not even honest enough to quote the full thing I said.