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Sep 8 2018 12:54pm
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A week later and a Papadopoulous nothingburger sentence later, I'm even less convinced of Russian collusion than I was last week. I just don't think anything is really there. It's starting to feel like some Cold War type shit.

[VIDEO]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW2EtFsBndg[/VIDEO]

Professor Emeritus Stephen Cohen has a pretty interesting perspective here.


Vice interviewed that professor (along with another guy) a month or so ago, he seemed like a smart guy, he had some valid points but a little too shady for my liking, like a slightly more informed Rand Paul. I'm not sure there was much collusion either other than the fact that Trump publicly called for Russia to hack into Hillary's emails, Russia complied, that's open collusion whether you like it or not. That may have been the extent of it though. Also the Mueller investigation is not over, so let's not act like it. a lot of Roger stone's buddies are getting subpoenad right now, Mueller probably thinks there is something there to do with Wikileaks. Also a Russian hacker was apparently just expedited I posted in early yesterday.





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Sep 8 2018 03:13pm
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A week later and a Papadopoulous nothingburger sentence later, I'm even less convinced of Russian collusion than I was last week. I just don't think anything is really there. It's starting to feel like some Cold War type shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW2EtFsBndg

Professor Emeritus Stephen Cohen has a pretty interesting perspective here.


On Papadopoulous, it's pretty clear he wasn't part of the conspiracy. Still, his lawyer acknowledges that the UK professor was working on behalf of Russia, so we have multiple instances of Russia trying to engage in a conspiracy with the campaign. It's hard to believe no one on the campaign participated... but we shall see.

I like listening to Stephen Cohen to get another perspective, but it hurts his credibility when he still pretends there's no evidence of Russia interfering in the 2016 election. Also, this interview with Tucker was right after the Trump-Putin meeting in Helsinki, and Cohen pretends that simply meeting with Putin was the reason the media(and others) were hypercritical of the president. That's just dishonest... it was Trump's ridiculous statements that everyone(including his cult) were critical of.

Cohen thinks we deserve the larger share of blame for souring relations with Russia... but I just don't accept it. Obama had a good working relationship when Medvedev was president... and there's a multitude of actions Putin has taken which have brought the relationship to an incredibly low point.

Ofthevoid posted this debate a while ago between Cohen and Obama's ambassador for Russia, Mike McFaul. It's useful to hear from a guy who actually had to deal with Russia for years:

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Sep 9 2018 08:47am
http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/405755-papadopoulos-my-testimony-may-help-demonstrate-trump-campaign
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"Do you think when the entire Mueller investigation is finished that they will demonstrate that there was collusion between the Trump campaign, Trump advisers and the Russians?" ABC's George Stephanopoulos asked Papadopoulos on "This Week."
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"I have no idea," the former Trump campaign adviser responded. "All I can say is my testimony might have helped move something towards that."
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Jg mr padopapopapooulos ! :banana:
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Bill Maher interviewing Jack Bryan gave me chills... confirmed my worst fears, Trump is a Russian asset, his properties (and other) properties are used by Putin's oligarchs to launder money. Jack Bryan said the Patriot act has a "cut out" for real estate? if that means what I think it means, it's no surprise why Putin/Russia has been able to get away with all their money crimes. Hopefully when the dems take the house this Novemeber, we can get the House ways and means committee can begin the process to get Trump's COMPLETE tax returns (especially when he went bankrupt around the mid 2000s), that should paint a better picture and show how much of a Russian asset trump really is.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/stooge-puppet-master-watch-hbos-bill-maher-chat-director-new-documentary-trump-putin/
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Sep 9 2018 10:07am
Quote (Horford @ Sep 9 2018 10:58am)
Bill Maher interviewing Jack Bryan gave me chills... confirmed my worst fears, Trump is a Russian asset, his properties (and other) properties are used by Putin's oligarchs to launder money. Jack Bryan said the Patriot act has a "cut out" for real estate? if that means what I think it means, it's no surprise why Putin/Russia has been able to get away with all their money crimes. Hopefully when the dems take the house this Novemeber, we can get the House ways and means committee can begin the process to get Trump's COMPLETE tax returns (especially when he went bankrupt around the mid 2000s), that should paint a better picture and show how much of a Russian asset trump really is.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/stooge-puppet-master-watch-hbos-bill-maher-chat-director-new-documentary-trump-putin/

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https://media2.giphy.com/media/svb8tKSIpGfHq/source.gif



lol, it's a scary time for Trump cultists, it's okay, we'll help you through it.

you know Putin is more than likely one of if not the richest people in the world right? Russia is a kleptocracy, they just steal from anyone (including their own people) in a very smart way to get away with it.


Active Measures
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2018 ‧ Documentary ‧ 1h 52m
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Filmmaker Jack Bryan suggests that Vladmir Putin is behind a 30-year history of covert political warfare to disrupt and ultimately control world events.
Release date: August 31, 2018 (USA)
Director: Jack Bryan
Cinematography: Neil Barrett
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Quote (Horford @ Sep 9 2018 11:10am)
lol, it's a scary time for Trump cultists, it's okay, we'll help you through it.

you know Putin is more than likely one of if not the richest people in the world right? Russia is a kleptocracy, they just steal from anyone (including their own people) in a very smart way to get away with it.


Active Measures
PG-13
2018 ‧ Documentary ‧ 1h 52m
Image result for jack bryan documentary
Play trailer on YouTube
3/4 · Roger Ebert
96% liked this movie
Google users
Filmmaker Jack Bryan suggests that Vladmir Putin is behind a 30-year history of covert political warfare to disrupt and ultimately control world events.
Release date: August 31, 2018 (USA)
Director: Jack Bryan
Cinematography: Neil Barrett
Screenplay: Jack Bryan, Marley Clements
Music composed by: Doran Danoff, John MacCallum
Producers: Jack Bryan, Laura DuBois, Marley Clements

You rarely fail to showcase how much of a low information poster you are.

96%, holy fuck Batman.

82% liked Dinesh D'Souza’s “Hillary’s America” on Google’s review
It must mostly be true as well.

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Sep 9 2018 10:23am
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You rarely fail to showcase how much of a low information poster you are.

96%, holy fuck Batman.

82% liked Dinesh D'Souza’s “Hillary’s America” on Google’s review
It must mostly be true as well.


why are you making fun of one of your idols?

"low information"

ironic coming from the guy who once tried to claim Russia didn't meddle in our election

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Sep 9 2018 10:30am
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Sep 9 2018 12:17pm)
You rarely fail to showcase how much of a low information poster you are.

96%, holy fuck Batman.

82% liked Dinesh D'Souza’s “Hillary’s America” on Google’s review
It must mostly be true as well.


Dont feed the low iq trolls
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