Quote (bogie160 @ 21 May 2023 05:00)
No, then they were trying to quickly overthrow the Kyiv regime. But what was true then is not true now. Russia has accepted that they cannot win the war quickly, and they're no longer trying to.
If you take Putins words at face value - they declared the goals of this mess as protection of Russian speaking part of Ukraine, “denazification” and “demilitarisation”.
Protection of Russians speaking part went so-so with the area largely destroyed and people displaced either internally, to EU or to Russia. Doubt people are returning until the conflict is over and the place is rebuilt. Big factories like Azovstal are gone forever and will not return posing a question of employment for the whole area.
Russians failed to get Kharkov, Kherson, Nikolaev, Odessa. I wonder how that will be spun domestically if they go for a ceasefire. Odessa massacre is literally a cornerstone of domestic propaganda.
Denazification went so-so. Although Azov got destroyed I see that nationalistic movement has been strengthened with Bandera being more popular than ever. Here is a fun link for our Polish friend:
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraines-ambassador-outraged-polish-foreign-090355311.htmlDemilitarisation - we can assume slow grinder of both personnel and equipment is a part of that? NATO equipment gets blown up one way or another.
China is on the rise and there is no stopping it. If anything this war was the biggest mistake for Eu and Russia as it deprived EU of cheap Russian resources and have thrown Russia into Chinese embrace. China are not friends to Russia. They hold their own interest over anything else.
Let’s see what happens in 2024 and who wins the next election cycle in the US.
This post was edited by Malopox on May 21 2023 12:43am