Quote (Malopox @ 20 May 2023 10:23)
Interesting. Means Wikileaks is banned in Ireland? You can use the following link to read it I hope.
https://archive.is/2022.10.17-092831/https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.htmlIt’s a confidential diplomatic cable leaked by a Assange where ambassador to Russia who went on to become head of CIA in the current Biden admin explains that accepting Ukraine and Georgia into NATO is not a good idea as Russians might react violently. Mind you this is February 2008, ahead of NATO Bucharest summit of April 2008 which was followed by Russian invasion of Georgia in August 2008.
I hope you appreciate the subject line of this memo:
“ NYET MEANS NYET: RUSSIA'S NATO ENLARGEMENT REDLINES”
That is one interesting lecture.
First of all Russia says there that Ukraine nato membership isnt necessary for security because the cold war is over and there is no military risk from Russia.
What a bullshit that was. Nato is needed just as much as during the cold war, in fact we are back in cold war.
Russia also says that Ukraine joining nato could potentially create unrest in Ukraine, with possible split the country.
Such a caring neighbour Russia is, they wanted the best for Ukraine, they didnt want any unrest in Ukraine but apparently launching a full invasion on the country is all right.
So in short, Russia fooled nato, fooled the Western people and Ukrainians. They said Ukraine doesnt need nato membership for their security, that nato is a cold war relict, and requested not to let Ukraine join so to maintain friendly relations, but it turns out they did it so they could attack Ukraine in the future.
Im not surprised, I know how Russia does diplomacy. They ask for something, then in some years they ask for something else, something more. So if you want to be friendly with Russia, you need to keep giving them things. And one day you wake up and realize you have given them already too much/everything.