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May 18 2023 12:16pm
Istanbul have thousands years of history but it doesn't make Turks Greek.
Okay, Google. Khazar Khanate.
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May 18 2023 01:17pm
Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2023 08:10pm)
Russia promised Ukraine in Budapest agreement that they won't attack them.
So Ukraine was already a "no-go" zone for Russia, the Ukraine was truly free and Independent, not a Russia zone of influence.
You should stop thinking what the Russia wants. Because the Russia wants *everything* and doesnt respect any agreements.
If you give them something, they will ask for more in some years.
That's how they ate Poland in XVIII age - asking piece by piece and returning with new demands every couple years.
Kyiv is much older city than Moscov, so that Ukraine has more ław to rule Russia, rather than other way around. Of course that's not gonna happen, because nobody gonna attack Russia, but if we talk about historical entitlement I say Kyiv is older.


Dude...

I was talking about the 2008 NATO summit held in Bucharest and you reply by mentioning the Budapest memorandum which was signed in 1992

Can't you see that the 2008 NATO summit (welcoming Ukraine and Georgia) changed everything?

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Yeah it seems very funny and intelligent: how many centuries of history do they have vs your own ?


-51 :lol:
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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 18 May 2023 22:56)
-51 :lol:


Teh famous Gaelic runes?
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Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2023 08:10pm)
Russia promised Ukraine in Budapest agreement that they won't attack them.
So Ukraine was already a "no-go" zone for Russia, the Ukraine was truly free and Independent, not a Russia zone of influence.
You should stop thinking what the Russia wants. Because the Russia wants *everything* and doesnt respect any agreements.
If you give them something, they will ask for more in some years.
That's how they ate Poland in XVIII age - asking piece by piece and returning with new demands every couple years.
Kyiv is much older city than Moscov, so that Ukraine has more ław to rule Russia, rather than other way around. Of course that's not gonna happen, because nobody gonna attack Russia, but if we talk about historical entitlement I say Kyiv is older.


poland will be more powerfull with russia than to be with usa... for usa and uk theire nightmare is a union btw euro and russia. union btw russia and europe mean end of usa and uk empire. finish the western roman empire . as i said you, i m on western part, and as i said to my pl friend, our world isnt a model, its just a consummer world.

If your life finality is to have a good sofa and a good tv and a good car, yeah western world is for you. But if you want a true liberty, family value, country value ect.. this isnt for you.. western world will kill everythings,,, Now in our village we got nothing, no pub, no bakery, no butcher's shop , no job... life price is high , WOW you get 2000 euro from work but you need 2000 euro to live. in fact here most of us are poor but brainwashed.
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May 18 2023 03:46pm
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poland will be more powerfull with russia than to be with usa... for usa and uk theire nightmare is a union btw euro and russia. union btw russia and europe mean end of usa and uk empire. finish the western roman empire . as i said you, i m on western part, and as i said to my pl friend, our world isnt a model, its just a consummer world.

If your life finality is to have a good sofa and a good tv and a good car, yeah western world is for you. But if you want a true liberty, family value, country value ect.. this isnt for you.. western world will kill everythings,,, Now in our village we got nothing, no pub, no bakery, no butcher's shop , no job... life price is high , WOW you get 2000 euro from work but you need 2000 euro to live. in fact here most of us are poor but brainwashed.


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May 18 2023 04:07pm
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Would be a shame if NATO sent F16s, and Ukrainian pilots flew them from air bases inside Poland. Send them up with a caution to not do any shooting until you cross into Ukrainian airspace.
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Nato is a defensive treaty and so on alliance, which countries are joining by their free will. You will have an hard time to present Nato as an equivalent -threat- than Ruscist regime, especially when ex-ussr (small and non-nuclear powered) countries are joining it to avoid being annexed/invaded again... Precisely.


Nato did strong defensive actions in libya also

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