d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate >
Poll > How To Get To Heaven When You Die
Prev1272273274275276298Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
  Guests cannot view or vote in polls. Please register or login.
Member
Posts: 17,286
Joined: Mar 13 2009
Gold: 0.00
Aug 1 2018 03:02pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 1 2018 11:49pm)
So what you are saying is that god is not needed to explain a single thing.
The parable of the drowning man does not need god either, so it is nonsense.


What it means is to trust God but use common sense. It makes you think about your expectations and how we can miss the blessing or miss being blessed because our focus is on the way it appears to suit our expectations. You may not realize that your prayer has been answered because it didn't happen the way you had in mind.

(I use you, your and we interchangeably)
Member
Posts: 64,718
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 260.11
Aug 1 2018 06:54pm
Quote (CPK001 @ Aug 1 2018 03:02pm)
What it means is to trust God but use common sense. It makes you think about your expectations and how we can miss the blessing or miss being blessed because our focus is on the way it appears to suit our expectations. You may not realize that your prayer has been answered because it didn't happen the way you had in mind.

(I use you, your and we interchangeably)


A simpler explanation is that God isn't answering prayers at all.

Even if he was answering prayers since he never uses any methods that violate what we understand about the universe it would be indistinguishable from random chance.
Member
Posts: 17,286
Joined: Mar 13 2009
Gold: 0.00
Aug 2 2018 12:05am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 2 2018 10:54am)
A simpler explanation is that God isn't answering prayers at all.

Even if he was answering prayers since he never uses any methods that violate what we understand about the universe it would be indistinguishable from random chance.


Why do you think it would be indistinguishable from random chance?
Member
Posts: 2,286
Joined: Aug 20 2006
Gold: 186.16
Aug 3 2018 09:34pm
Please take the time to read this first post and vote in the poll if you haven't yet.
Member
Posts: 14,319
Joined: Jun 19 2010
Gold: 7,271.48
Aug 4 2018 07:41am
Quote (CPK001 @ Aug 2 2018 12:05am)
Why do you think it would be indistinguishable from random chance?



Because it is literally indistinguishable from random chance.
Member
Posts: 17,286
Joined: Mar 13 2009
Gold: 0.00
Aug 6 2018 01:53am
Quote (remco6 @ Aug 4 2018 11:41pm)
Because it is literally indistinguishable from random chance.


Explain, expand and give examples.
Member
Posts: 64,718
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 260.11
Aug 6 2018 09:05am
Quote (CPK001 @ Aug 6 2018 01:53am)
Explain, expand and give examples.


Pray to find your car keys.

You find your car keys in the next place you look.

Was it God? Or just a statistical certainty that you would eventually find your car keys immediately after praying at least once if you always pray to find your car keys?



Similarly

Pray for your son to get cured of his cancer.
His cancer goes into remission.
Let's say 90% of families pray when their kid has cancer. Statistically certain that some of them will go into remission, whether or not God was intervening.
Member
Posts: 17,286
Joined: Mar 13 2009
Gold: 0.00
Aug 7 2018 01:42am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 7 2018 01:05am)
Pray to find your car keys.

You find your car keys in the next place you look.

Was it God? Or just a statistical certainty that you would eventually find your car keys immediately after praying at least once if you always pray to find your car keys?



Similarly

Pray for your son to get cured of his cancer.
His cancer goes into remission.
Let's say 90% of families pray when their kid has cancer. Statistically certain that some of them will go into remission, whether or not God was intervening.


Read my testimony. http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=78631766&f=125&p=530976065

Turns out that praying actually works. Whether it is coincidence or whether it is God, it turns out that when you pray to God things have a way of working out in the end.
Member
Posts: 64,718
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 260.11
Aug 7 2018 04:17am
Quote (CPK001 @ Aug 7 2018 01:42am)
Read my testimony. http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=78631766&f=125&p=530976065

Turns out that praying actually works. Whether it is coincidence or whether it is God, it turns out that when you pray to God things have a way of working out in the end.


Doesn't refute what I said about it being indistinguishable from random chance
Member
Posts: 4,657
Joined: Jun 18 2010
Gold: 1,532.01
Aug 7 2018 05:35am
Quote (CPK001 @ Aug 7 2018 08:42am)


That’s legit the most underwhelming ‘coming to god’ experience I’ve ever read. god directs you back to your camp to save you getting wet...

Why couldn’t he have helped Elizabeth Fritzl, while she was locked in a basement for 24 years being raped almost every day by her father? You must realise how utterly insane it is to come to the conclusion you did

This post was edited by GetOnYourKnees on Aug 7 2018 05:36am
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev1272273274275276298Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll