Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2023 02:37pm)

The problem in Europe is that every country plays their little political game.
My country, Poland, is also doing that: we are trying to be in EU while staying close allies with USA, as only the latter guarantees a proper security.
Germany and France plays a risky game for their countries to be richer. But they seem to forget the larger threat from the east, from Russia and China. They are thinking short term imo, on short and medium term incomes, while we should focus more on building long term alliance with USA and other countries who want to be friends with us.
Of course its not nice to spy on your friends, its not bringing usa-eu people together, but it can be justified.
USA needs to know what Germany and France plans, so they can handle issues with China properly.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 18 2023 02:40pm)

Might change it to St0rmSh4d0w, what do you think comrade?

#3months

Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2023 01:37pm)

The problem in Europe is that every country plays their little political game.
My country, Poland, is also doing that: we are trying to be in EU while staying close allies with USA, as only the latter guarantees a proper security.
Germany and France plays a risky game for their countries to be richer. But they seem to forget the larger threat from the east, from Russia and China. They are thinking short term imo, on short and medium term incomes, while we should focus more on building long term alliance with USA and other countries who want to be friends with us.
Of course its not nice to spy on your friends, its not bringing usa-eu people together, but it can be justified.
USA needs to know what Germany and France plans, so they can handle issues with China properly.

Quote (Santara @ Feb 11 2023 04:49pm)

That's because Russians are pieces of shit, as evidenced by their current behavior.

Quote (Djunior @ Feb 11 2023 05:50pm)

Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Vietnam and so on
So, all Americans pieces of shit?

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 11 2023 06:17pm)

Sure, if it makes you feel better.

Quote (Djunior @ Feb 11 2023 06:19pm)

British empire committed crimes against humanity everywhere, plus Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and so on
So, all Britons pieces of shit?

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 11 2023 06:24pm)

Sure, if it makes you feel better.
And you agree Russians fighting in Ukraine are pieces of shit, right?

Quote (Djunior @ Feb 11 2023 06:56pm)

The mercenaries, yes. Although a bunch of them were given a tough choice, stay in prison till you rot or die storming strongpoints.
The regulars (guys pulled from their village), no.

Quote (Djunior @ May 18 2023 01:47pm)

I don't think that sending Storm Shadow missiles will solve anything, in fact it will only escalate things.

#logicalthinking

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 18 2023 02:54pm)

Djunior is accusing you of the exact same hypocrisy he harbours. He hates the West and holds them to a different standard as his hero Putin.
A moralist when it comes to what he see's is wrongs against Russia, and a realist when it comes to justifying and apologizing for Putin.

Not a worthwhile use of your time.

It will definitely resolve in less invaders! What escalation? Russia gonna invade Ukraine again? :lol: #3MonthsPart2

Quote (Djunior @ 18 May 2023 14:47)

I don't think that sending Storm Shadow missiles will solve anything, in fact it will only escalate things.

#logicalthinking

Quote (Meanwhile @ May 18 2023 02:02pm)

Let's call it a logic double fail:

a/ Terrorist Russian state already escalated it to the max with civilians rapes, loot, torture, executions...etc
b/ Storm Shadow missiles will only be used within Ukraine territory.

nb: On a side note i think these missiles (/e or even others weapons) should also be used to destroy military targets (bombers bases & warships, the ones targetting civilians) in Russian territory but it's only my personal opinion.

Quote (ferdia @ 18 May 2023 21:07)

Logically now, if weapons should also be used by western forces against sites in Russia, then Russia will respond with strikes into Western Europe. which basically, means WW3. Your personal opinion is for WW3 to occur, or is it that you want Russia to simply swallow and take it on the chin?

Quote (ferdia @ 18 May 2023 15:07)

Logically now, if weapons should also be used by western forces against sites in Russia, then Russia will respond with strikes into Western Europe. which basically, means WW3. Your personal opinion is for WW3 to occur, or is it that you want Russia to simply swallow and take it on the chin?

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 18 May 2023 14:02)

I don't think he even have the idea why the Balkans and the Soviet Russia are poor and where it is now.
Communism is only part of the equation.
Corruption in the Balkans and Ex Soviet States is another equation.

One situation that is frequently not being talked about is rather controversial which is the religion equation.

Balkans and Poland are majority either Eastern Orthodox and Catholicism.
Both Orthodoxy and Catholicism are very tightly knitted , family bound and low trust societies.

* Note the Italian " Southern Problem ".

It takes a sightly longer time for them to progress further. It is difficult for them to be put into a so called " Western Style " Democracy and free market economy capitalistic system and expect them to fly within a few decades.

Western Europe is being divided into two / Three parts, the Protestant Atheist North and the Orthodoxy / Catholic South and we have the Balkans / Poland / Russia which are similar in culture and religion wise.
The Southern and Balkan West are still practicing patronage / Clientelism abroad all walks of life .

To simply put that Russia is the main problem that the Balkans and Ex Soviet states are corrupted is simply blaming someone else for a problem that already existed in their society for 100s of years.

Quote (Meanwhile @ May 18 2023 02:18pm)

I am sorry this is not logic: this is stretch where you are victimizing a terrorist state.

Precisely destroying the bombers trying to blindly assassinate civilians... Do you remember the winter attacks on energy structures designed to kill ukrainians civilians by the cold ?
Which kind of horrible sub-human scum country can do that... ? The one that did Holomodor. Agitating WW3 scarecrow... ?