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May 18 2023 04:38am
Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2023 12:20pm)
Dont you simply understand that a single country, Russia, can have 2 policies on vaccines?
First policy is for their own country and friendly countries like Serbia. In this policy vaccines are good.
Second policy is for countries who Russia needs to be destabilize or "denazify": Ukraine, EU, USA. In this policy vaccines are dangerous, not tested and citizens living there should avoid it.
The more chaos Russians will make in Ukraine, EU, USA - the better for their politics. Country where people argue and fight each other, where people dont want to vaccinate, where people resist science, where people die of covid: is a weaker opponent and unable to stop Russia.


You just keep rambling dude.

Every country will look after it's own citizens and that of friendly countries or allies first. You do remember that the WHO criticized Western countries to keep more vaccines than they were gonna need for themselves and poor countries were missing out. According to your logic, was this an attempt by the West to corrupt the poor countries?

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May 18 2023 04:44am
Quote (Malopox @ 18 May 2023 12:24)
Didn’t you just say that Russians had the lowest percentage of vaccinated compared to EU and USA?

So following your logic Russians are unable to stop Russia anymore because they are less vaccinated?


Russians would like to have their people vaccinated, hovewer they didnt produce enough vaccines in time, because their country is less developed than EU/USA and didnt have production infrastructure.
Also Russia used their vaccines abroad, to gain political influence in some other countries.
They either dont care too much about their own citizens survival, or knew that vaccine efficiency data was faked or both.
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May 18 2023 04:46am
Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2023 07:44am)
Russians would like to have their people vaccinated, hovewer they didnt produce enough vaccines in time, because their country is less developed than EU/USA and didnt have production infrastructure.
Also Russia used their vaccines abroad, to gain political influence in some other countries.
They either dont care too much about their own citizens survival, or knew that vaccine efficiency data was faked or both.


Wow
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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ May 18 2023 11:46am)
Wow


may I ?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

There are a host of sites on line that you can cross reference which show that in alot of countries, no doubt including Russia, Covid and Covid related deaths, are under reported.
It is worth noting however that its not safe to throw stones in glass houses noting Russia is not special in this regard, lying about total fatalities is a disease in itself, but I dont see alot of evidence to support the notion that Russia would rather support other countries then its own.

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Quote (Djunior @ 18 May 2023 12:38)
You just keep rambling dude.

Every country will look after it's own citizens and that of friendly countries or allies first. You do remember thatthe WHO criticized Western countries to keep more vaccines than they were gonna need for themselves and poor countries were missing out. According to your logic, was this an attempt by the West to corrupt the poor countries?

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Of course every country vaccinates their own people first.
But Russia does something else.
It supports antivaccin campaigns in countries that it tries to destabilize.
EU/USA doesnt support antivaccin campaign anywhere.
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May 18 2023 04:54am
A great plan to sell vaccines. Truth be told I got covid symptoms yesterday and the Russians are to blame.

This post was edited by Norlander on May 18 2023 04:57am
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Quote (Ironfister @ 18 May 2023 12:36)
You are totally wrong, I'm 100% for peace.
The only 100% way to avoid NATO war with Russia is to help Ukraine stop Russia in Ukraine.
If Putin conquers Ukraine, he might go attack next countries, which are NATO.
So if somebody wants peace, he should arm Ukraine. Its as simple as that.
And get Ukraine into NATO when its possible, after a cease fire with Russia is signed. Ukraine army is very strong, they need NATO to stop Russia but also we need them in NATO.
Germany has a small army and peaceful people that wouldn't want to go to war, especially outside Germany borders.
USA could be busy in Asia, and only give Intel help in Europe.
So we need Eastern NATO members and Ukraine teamed up to create a force that Russians will be scared to attack.
This is the peace plan for Europe.


Is there any redemption for the Russian nation? Can they ever be as good and pure as democratic land of Polski?
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Quote (Malopox @ 18 May 2023 13:59)
Is there any redemption for the Russian nation? Can they ever be as good and pure as democratic land of Polski?


Accept the Catholic faith and a pathological craving for beavers, start using kurwa instead of suka blyat (which is harder)

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Quote (Norlander @ 18 May 2023 13:00)
Accept the Catholic faith and a pathological craving for beavers, start using kurwa instead of suka blyat (which is harder)


Do they also need to Rush A from now on?

This post was edited by Malopox on May 18 2023 05:04am
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Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2023 12:51pm)
Of course every country vaccinates their own people first.
But Russia does something else.
It supports antivaccin campaigns in countries that it tries to destabilize.
EU/USA doesnt support antivaccin campaign anywhere.


You mean Ukraine right? (the article you linked)

Russia was already at war with Ukraine at that time. It's not surprising at all that Russia wasn't really helping Ukraine in 2020/2021.

Talking about countries destabilizing another country, the other day I linked news that the CIA is openly recruiting people in Russia to spy, how would you rate that?

It's fine I guess hmm?
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