Quote (Norlander @ May 18 2023 12:09pm)

Da

https://i.imgur.com/70Xc9fJ.jpg

Quote (Ironfister @ 18 May 2023 11:47)

I already did:
"We are neighbours with Russia here, just as USA people know more or less about Canadians and Mexicans, we know the Russians, Germans and Czech people."
For me I remember my uncle who was kidnapped into Syberia by Russians during the ww2.
Then we remember 1945 "liberation" and that soviets were raping women and stealing and always drunk.
Then we remember 45-89 Russian occupation.
I dont really need mass media to tell me about Russian, me and my family knows them well.

Quote (Djunior @ 18 May 2023 13:14)

Any supercum falling from the sky lately?

Quote (Djunior @ 18 May 2023 12:00)

Nope, it's ^ironfister who's constantly spewing propaganda and misinformation and therefor needs to be corrected.

You've read what he said, he's now mixing up corruption in Russia with Russia corrupting the corona vaccine program which is BS so I corrected him and pointed out that Russia was in fact one of the first (or the first) to roll out a corona vaccine and in fact shared it with countries that were interested much to the dismay of Western countries.

Then he linked an Harvard article that concluded that Russia did not treat Ukraine the same as Serbia which is no surprise, the only thing you need to read is the title:



There was a war raging in Eastern Ukraine since 2014 after Euromaidan, obviously Ukraine is no longer a friend but a foe

Quote (Ironfister @ May 18 2023 11:26am)

Your nickname is Pisior, are you somehow related or fan of PiS polish government?
I'm not their voter, they are populist and not fairplay politics, also dont fully respect our national constitution, and this is a red line for me.
hovewer I must admit they do proper things when it comes to ukraine-russia war. They also kind of do what the common people want, unlike the Brussels EU government that is making things expensive because of too much environment/climate protection.
I dont know too much for other European countries, but here people dont want to give up cars, dont want to give up eating meat, dont want heavy taxes on flights, on energy.
So its kind of tough decision when it comes to elections.

Quote (Ironfister @ 18 May 2023 12:20)

Dont you simply understand that a single country, Russia, can have 2 policies on vaccines?
First policy is for their own country and friendly countries like Serbia. In this policy vaccines are good.
Second policy is for countries who Russia needs to be destabilize or "denazify": Ukraine, EU, USA. In this policy vaccines are dangerous, not tested and citizens living there should avoid it.
The more chaos Russians will make in Ukraine, EU, USA - the better for their politics. Country where people argue and fight each other, where people dont want to vaccinate, where people resist science, where people die of covid: is a weaker opponent and unable to stop Russia.

Quote (Ironfister @ 18 May 2023 08:19)

First google link:
"Russia’s vaccination campaign has fallen far behind that of most European nations and the United States. Russia has given at least one dose to 4.4 percent of its population, compared with 10 percent in the European Union and 26 percent in the United States."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/28/world/europe/sputnik-vaccine-russia.html

"Fun fact": Russia had to import the Sputnik vaccines from other countries, because they didnt have production capabilities.

And finally while Sputnik could be somehow effective, I dont really trust Russian data. Its Russia, a culture of lying and cheating, they lie about hypersonic unstoppable missiles, they cheat and lie anytime there are olympic games, they lie saying that Ukraine government is nazi, so why should they tell the full truth about their vaccines?
This could also be one of the reason for low rollout of the vaccines they knew its not that much effective as advertised.
Anyway we are going little offtopic here...

Quote (Malopox @ 18 May 2023 12:16)

Okay so we established that you are making up all of that yourself. That’s a relief. I was worried that Polish msm propaganda really gears up to fight Russians.

You seem to really know your history well which you established firmly with your comments about an illegal invasion of Iraq by a.o. Polish forces.

I strongly advise you to follow your brave compatriot Michał Żurek and prove you are willing to die by your principles.

I rest my case.