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El Shadday

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#2721

Jul 31 2018 12:10pm

Quote (Thor123422 @ 31 Jul 2018 10:29)

I mean, we're not the ones claiming perfection exists. That's on the Christians saying God is perfect yet somehow spawned an imperfect world.

God is absolute perfect.
All spirits were created simple and ignorant.

I also wish God would create everyone perfect!
it would be great ... but ... it was not like that.

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#2722

Jul 31 2018 12:38pm

whats your issue brian_D?

This post was edited by Diablo5 on Jul 31 2018 01:01pm

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#2723

Jul 31 2018 12:51pm

Why is this trash here? Move it to the right sub forum.

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#2724

Jul 31 2018 01:24pm

Quote (Brian_D @ Jul 31 2018 12:51pm)

Why is this trash here? Move it to the right sub forum.

Title of this forum is Political AND RELIGIOUS discussion. Isn’t talking about heaven and hell religious?

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#2725

Jul 31 2018 03:19pm

Quote (El Shadday @ Jul 31 2018 12:10pm)

God is absolute perfect.
All spirits were created simple and ignorant.

I also wish God would create everyone perfect!
it would be great ... but ... it was not like that.

Sounds like God is an asshole then.

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#2726

Jul 31 2018 03:31pm

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 31 2018 09:29am)

I mean, we're not the ones claiming perfection exists. That's on the Christians saying God is perfect yet somehow spawned an imperfect world.

Perfection is a human construct. There is God's will and nothing else

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#2727

Jul 31 2018 03:34pm

Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 31 2018 03:31pm)

Perfection is a human construct. There is God's will and nothing else

Tell that to Christians and I'll believe you're genuine.

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#2728

Aug 1 2018 01:16am

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 31 2018 10:00pm)

God can work miracles however he wants. If he wants to cook somebody dinner he can do that.

You continually put yourself above God with posts like this where you explain how God must work.

Yet he chooses to work his miracles through his people. God chose Abraham, Moses and Peter among many others.

How can I be putting myself above God when I explain to you how he does things?

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 31 2018 10:48pm)

So what you are saying is if you are elderly and have no one to come help you then you are out of luck because your omnipotent god is unable to help?
My oncologist was able to remove my original cancer, but god can't make an old ladies central heater work?

I love how you miss the entire point of the story by purposefully twisting the meaning.

Tell me, why does God need to use some great and powerful magic trick when he can merely send a fellow human to come and help that old lady? If the old lady is unable to look after herself then she should be in a retirement home.

If the old lady is able to use a phone and call somebody to come help fix the central heater then good on her for doing so. She does that whereas you on the other hand would keep turning the switch on and off, day in day out expecting it to suddenly work. I can certainly see how the Parable of the Drowning Man is VERY relevant in this situation.

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Aug 1 2018 05:03am

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Aug 1 2018 07:49am

Quote (CPK001 @ Aug 1 2018 06:16pm)

Yet he chooses to work his miracles through his people. God chose Abraham, Moses and Peter among many others.

How can I be putting myself above God when I explain to you how he does things?

I love how you miss the entire point of the story by purposefully twisting the meaning.

Tell me, why does God need to use some great and powerful magic trick when he can merely send a fellow human to come and help that old lady? If the old lady is unable to look after herself then she should be in a retirement home.

If the old lady is able to use a phone and call somebody to come help fix the central heater then good on her for doing so. She does that whereas you on the other hand would keep turning the switch on and off, day in day out expecting it to suddenly work. I can certainly see how the Parable of the Drowning Man is VERY relevant in this situation.

So what you are saying is that god is not needed to explain a single thing.
The parable of the drowning man does not need god either, so it is nonsense.

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