This. Trump isn't convincing moderates - the craziness of the left is.

People were so against the bullshit of the left in 2016 that they voted for Drumpf - a reality tv star/business man. The "most qualified candidate in the world" couldn't beat Drumpf. The "tolerant" people on the left that make everything into an issue of race/bigotry/etc. are the reason Drumpf exists. It's hilarious to watch unfold. You fools created what you hate so much.

If the left wants to win in 2020, they should run the candidate that is as close to center as possible. Biden comes to mind. A huge portion of voters are in the middle, and they're screaming for a halfway decent candidate on either side to feel good about voting for.

Who the fuck rolled into a voting both in 2016 feeling good about voting for either of the shit candidates we were given? You probably voted for who you thought was the lesser of two evils.

This post was edited by djman72 on Aug 31 2018 07:58am

are you implying Trump has only moderate policy goals in mind?

the moderate aspects of his platform are Tax reform (done), Entitlement Squeezing (political suicide the congress wont stand by), and generic deregulation (done). along with 2 USSC justices (basically done).

Trump's blown his wad in terms of generic moderate policy. most moderates agreed with it and still do, neither USSC pick is evil and tax reform was good.

which begs the question, what is his policy moving forward and is that policy moderate? The wall? Reform on media liability? Entitlement reform? Going after legal pot? im curious if ive missed anything.

shapiro is right that the media is ignoring policy wins in favor of twitter hysteria, but he's leaving out the lack of moderate policy moving forward.



the lefts been rolling pretty well in 2018 at the voting booth. im confused how anyone could say moderates are being swayed. perhaps he swayed them in 2016, but 2018? 2020? heh....

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 31 2018 08:06am

we'll see. As i'm sure you know, the out of power party usually cleans up in the mid terms. I don't see this changing this year, but i didn't see Drumpf being our POTUS so who knows.

That's a valid point, opposition politics do get a surge. but that stands directly in the way of the "Trump is convincing moderates" narrative. You'd expect to see a lot of inordinate results if Trump was pulling moderates and a stronger midterm than he's had. People say the identity politics of the left and the fake news media with TDS are driving moderates to Trump, and yet he's getting pounded in a pretty normal way in the midterms. I think the truth is that people want to keep parroting that line until 2020 in hopes that Trump wins so they can feel vindicated with a "see he won again because he convinced moderates".

We'll have to wait a few months to see.

Think of it this way. trump is getting attacked from all sides. He can't trust the DOJ or the FBI anymore, they've both been caught out is BS. The Dems have gone absolutely wacko. The lower court judges are all allowing suits that should have been tossed out w/o a 2nd look. Hell, I've never heard of any president suffering more suits than Trump has in his first year. What is it up to now, over a 100?

If I was Trump, and found myself in this environment, I would get rid of anyone and everyone that didn't come up through the ranks with me. I would seriously clean the swamp.

The days when politicians and members of the DOJ and FBI, actually did their jobs, rather than attack the president for... nothing, are long gone. I mean I could see it, if Trump HAD done something illegal, and THEN the FBI and DOJ got involved.
But they were involved before the guy was even elected. The FBI in particular had Hillary red handed, and just ignored it. Both the FBI and the DOJ knew in advance of the Uranium one deal that the Russian companies they were dealing with were more crooked than Al Capone, and that this information should be pased on the the president and the state dept, yet just decided not to.

I've never seen so much underhanded illegal activity by the US govt. in my life. The ONLY person, I've noticed that wasn't sitting around smiling with their hand in the cookie jar is... Trump.
Everyone is blaming the Russians for helping trump win, even though he LOST the popular vote and the electoral college put him in office. Does this mean that the Russians influenced the electoral college? And if it doesn't mean that, then this Russia influencing the election is a load of Democrat pipe dream crap.

What's with the copypasta?

I want Ghot to elaborate on his baseless claim of when did the DOJ and FBI "attack the president"?

I'm very curious.

Pretty much confirms what we already knew, Sessions lied under oath and got away with it.

Wow! Guilty until proven innocent, huh?


Here's the article if anyone cares...


Trump, Sessions approved of Putin meeting proposal: former campaign adviser

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-papadopoulos/trump-sessions-approved-of-putin-meeting-proposal-former-campaign-adviser-idUSKCN1LH3JW



String 'em up. Not only are they not allowed to meet with a foreign potentate, they are not allowed to even consider it?





It's too bad we can't bottle lib/dem desperation. We could power the world for millennia on it.