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May 28 2020 12:39pm
Assault on Midway Center has begun. Police are planning a tear gas assault right now.
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May 28 2020 12:43pm
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Why do people destroy shit that has nothing to do with the atrocity that they are protesting? Didn’t we learn from Baltimore that leaving a scorched earth does nothing but causes business to flea and create more desperation for an area?

Feel bad for those business owners. The wine store and your local target weren’t kneeing on that poor dudes neck.


The way you effectively confront a system which values property over lives is by seizing property. The unfortunate thing is people are getting hurt.
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May 28 2020 12:46pm
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The way you effectively confront a system which values property over lives is by seizing property. The unfortunate thing is people are getting hurt.


Not particularly effective when you too value your property.
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May 28 2020 12:46pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 28 2020 01:39pm)
Assault on Midway Center has begun. Police are planning a tear gas assault right now.


squads are reporting some business owners locked in bathrooms while they're being looted
no fires yet

gas rounds and 40mm are being brought in, they need to stage themselves before they can clear the crowd
they just named three strike teams as they're organizing

governor walz is being unbelievably negligent. I've been reading weeks of dissatisfaction with him from rural small business owners for his destructive covid-19 response, but now the state is literally burning down on his watch
where the fuck is his response? We are at the point we need martial law and curfews.

if walz won't act, Trump should mobilize the army
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May 28 2020 12:47pm
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Charles Stotts, the co-owner of Town Talk Diner and Gastropub, barely slept as he waited for the sun to rise so he could return safely to his Longfellow eatery Thursday morning and assess the damage after a night of violence and looting.

“We got there, and it was so much worse than I could have imagined,” he said.

Several restaurants are located in the area where unrest broke out Wednesday night after earlier protests over the death of George Floyd. Owners of Gandhi Mahal, Midori’s Floating World Cafe and El Nuevo Rodeo, which are located at the same corner as Town Talk, about two blocks from the Third Precinct of the police department, were not immediately available for comment Thursday morning.

Town Talk Diner and Gastropub, with its historically landmarked sign, has been closed for on-premise dining since March 17 due to the coronavirus. Stotts was planning to reopen June 1 with sidewalk seating. “Sadly, that’s going to be on hold a little bit,” he said. Already facing setbacks from the pandemic, and now the riots, a “rattled” Stotts said 2020 is shaping up to be the “hardest of the hard.”

He spoke to the Star Tribune about what unfolded at his business last night, and what he saw when he got there this morning.

Q: Can you describe the damage to the restaurant?

A: I’ll be honest, my head is spinning a little bit. It was so much worse than I could have imagined. All our windows are heavily damaged and the sprinkler system is still engaged. So apparently, there must have been enough heat or fire that engaged the sprinkler system. There are several inches of water in my building. The dining room looks like it was hit by a wrecking ball. The bar was heavily looted. Lots of broken bottles, broken glass, and in our basement, the maintenance guy said it’s more than waist deep. There’s a lot to clean up, and there’s a lot to put back together.

We called our insurance person, and he reassured me we have the right insurance in place. It’ll be a long, hard process to replace, but replacement will be the goal.



Q: Will you rebuild in the same location? And how long will it take?

A: In four hours, I can’t say I’ve come up with those kind of answers. Just, my heart hurts for Longfellow. I’m sure that’s where my head will be the next day or two.

Will it be exactly there, with everything? I don’t know. Longfellow is a wonderful little neighborhood and they’ve been so amazingly supportive, but there’s so much damage and devastation in that area, it’s going to be a couple of years before that area is back to what would feel like normalcy.



Q: This has already been a tough year for your business, with the coronavirus pandemic closing the dining room.

A: It’s not like I have something I can compare it to. But if there’s one thing I know that’s going to happen it’s that people are going to eat. And people will always appreciate a good, well-thought meal, and hopefully they consider me and Kacey [White, the restaurant’s co-owner, and Stotts’ wife] one of the people that they want to feed them when this is all said and done.



Q: Did you attend any of the protests near the restaurant?

A: We protested on the first night when it rained, and the protesting was very calm. Wednesday didn’t go that route, unfortunately. My prayers are with Longfellow tonight, because I don’t know what happens on night three.



Q: Is there anything you would like to say to the people who damaged the restaurant?

A: I, as much as anybody, understand the need for the protest that was happening, and I, as much as anybody, understand the degree of anger and the degree of frustration and everything that was happening — because I was angry and I was frustrated with it, too. I just don’t understand how that spills over into buildings. How does the rage turn to our small little community businesses? I won’t ever understand. But I certainly understand the rest of it. I understand that terrible feeling, because we’re all sickened by it. I don’t want to say anything to them. I just hope they heal as well as any of us can heal.
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May 28 2020 12:48pm
What does he mean by "cart team capabilities"? Or am I hearing that wrong?
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May 28 2020 12:49pm
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if walz won't act, Trump should mobilize the army


The regular army cannot get involved.

It's up to the state national guard. The only federal forces that I'm aware of who can assist in this matter is the FBI, and riots aren't really their purview, that I know of.
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May 28 2020 12:52pm
Quote (RedFromWinter @ May 28 2020 02:43pm)
The way you effectively confront a system which values property over lives is by seizing property. The unfortunate thing is people are getting hurt.


We to stop with these sort of lazy justifications. If you're robbing the local liquor store because you want to get drunk and burn cars, you're a degenerate. There's no larger social point here, except that onlookers probably think far less of you.
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May 28 2020 12:55pm
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The regular army cannot get involved.

It's up to the state national guard. The only federal forces that I'm aware of who can assist in this matter is the FBI, and riots aren't really their purview, that I know of.


the president has the authority to mobilize the army to quell serious rioting.
ex in the 1967 detroit riots, gov romney (the elder) mobilized the michigan national guard, and president johnson sent in the 82nd and 101st airborne
in the 1992 LA riots, governor wilson mobilized the CA national guard and president bush (the elder) mobilized the 7th Infantry Division and 1st Marine Division

the president can invoke the insurrection act by executive order:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act

if a state government is incapable / unwilling to quell widespread domestic violence, the president may activate the army
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May 28 2020 12:56pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 28 2020 11:55am)
the president has the authority to mobilize the army to quell serious rioting.
ex in the 1967 detroit riots, gov romney (the elder) mobilized the michigan national guard, and president johnson sent in the 82nd and 101st airborne
in the 1992 LA riots, governor wilson mobilized the CA national guard and president bush (the elder) mobilized the 7th Infantry Division and 1st Marine Division

the president can invoke the insurrection act by executive order:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act

if a state government is incapable / unwilling to quell widespread domestic violence, the president may activate the army


National guard units are fine. Merely regular army that's not. (Yes I know, there can be exceptions, but it's unlikely here).

Pepperball use authorized. Looks like the assault on the Midway Center rioters is begun.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 28 2020 12:57pm
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