Quote (IceMage @ Oct 15 2019 01:57pm)
I don't get it. You're defending Trump sanctioning Turkey, and then saying America shouldn't be telling Turkey what to do.
This is the way of the world. Powerful countries exert their influence on other countries. Superpowers, especially exceptional ones like America, have an interest in shaping what happens in the Middle East. Why is crippling a nation's economy so different than stationing troops around them? Both can be existential threats to a nation.
Your question makes no sense. US troops near the Turkish border is not an existential threat to them. Having 10s of thousands of YPG grow strong on their border is. What Turkey is doing is wrong and needs to be condemned but to pretend that the YPG threat to them is nothing long term is nonsense.
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 15 2019 02:15pm)
Also void, weren't you the guy basically defending the Crimea annexation by saying they were ethnic Russians? Now you're singing a different tune when Turkey wants to take Kurdish held territory.
If all other defenses fail non-interventionists just fall back on "it's none of our business guys". It's a dogmatic position, not a pragmatic one.
And how are the 2 scenarios even remotely similar? Crimea is mostly Russian, Rojava is not mostly Turkish. A strong Kurd Rojava may lead to eventual Turkish Kurd regions to wish for independence and/or be funded by the Kurds in Rojava, is this true of the Crimea? This question honestly makes no sense and i would be shocked if you could make a coherent comparison.
Pragmatists look around the world and see failed after failed intervention and the US tax payer footing the bill. That's the realities of Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, etc. You not being able to see this basic truth is a problem.