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May 15 2023 09:53am


not sure if the US will go all in on this.
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May 15 2023 10:29am
Quote (ferdia @ May 15 2023 11:53am)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldNYCmCc15I

not sure if the US will go all in on this.


Western media keeps highlighting these things but completely ignores the fundamental ideological question which I and many have brought up-- and of course they don't do so because they're just another tentacle of the neo-con apparatus. We don't have a leg to stand to try to criticize, guilt and even sanction other countries from behaving how they see fit. We unilaterally have bombed and destroyed countries, we unilaterally have funded, armed & deposed various types of groups, with no UN resolutions or input from the international world. When our own nations operate like that, it's best for MSM in our countries to stfu in trying to criticize others. Maybe if they cared when Libya or Yemen was being razed to the ground with British supplied cluster munitions they'd have room to talk.
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Western media keeps highlighting these things but completely ignores the fundamental ideological question which I and many have brought up-- and of course they don't do so because they're just another tentacle of the neo-con apparatus. We don't have a leg to stand to try to criticize, guilt and even sanction other countries from behaving how they see fit. We unilaterally have bombed and destroyed countries, we unilaterally have funded, armed & deposed various types of groups, with no UN resolutions or input from the international world. When our own nations operate like that, it's best for MSM in our countries to stfu in trying to criticize others. Maybe if they cared when Libya or Yemen was being razed to the ground with British supplied cluster munitions they'd have room to talk.


I dont disagree with you, it is double standards and it boggles the mind how its OK to give one side weapons, but not ok to give the other side weapons. A contrarian might say "yes but we are the goodies" but the counter argument to that is "no we are the goodies". Ultimately there are no goodies and therefore sending any weapons to either side is wrong. While two wrongs dont make a right, in this geopolitical conflict the narrative in the west is "you are with us or you are against us, you are our complete ally, and will do what we say, or you will be our enemy". smaller countries cant afford to do this, while larger countries have more latitude. I think South America is probably big enough that the US MIGHT think twice before excommunicating them, metaphorically.



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May 15 2023 10:37am
Quote (ferdia @ 15 May 2023 17:53)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldNYCmCc15I

not sure if the US will go all in on this.


What’s the story here?

They found a Russian owned (sanctioned?) ship that docked offshore Capetown and switched off transponder for 4 days only to reappear 4 days later in the same harbour basically?

I believe you don’t need to keep your transponder on if you are anchored in a port according to maritime rules.

4 days is not enough to travel anywhere far from Capetown.

If this is a jab at South Africa being nonaligned - I believe I posted quite a good strategy paper about their foreign policy stance on Crimea and Ukraine/Russia issues.

Here is an article by FT with a bit better route - but still - no story? Have the cargo manifest leaked? Any details that NSA can release?

https://www.ft.com/content/6485f5a6-1188-4b2f-8f9b-dbedced1afbd


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What’s the story here?

They found a Russian owned (sanctioned?) ship that docked offshore Capetown and switched off transponder for 4 days only to reappear 4 days later in the same harbour basically?

I believe you don’t need to keep your transponder on if you are anchored in a port according to maritime rules.

4 days is not enough to travel anywhere far from Capetown.

If this is a jab at South Africa being nonaligned - I believe I posted quite a good strategy paper about their foreign policy stance on Crimea and Ukraine/Russia issues.


I think the idea is that the Russians turned off the transponder in order to dock at the military base and load weapons/ammunition secretly

The ambassadors strong words make it seem like the US probably has some additional evidence of it they don't want to release for whatever reason.

Either way, I think the ultimate goal is to put pressure on South Africa, "with us or against us" type of thing.
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I think the idea is that the Russians turned off the transponder in order to dock at the military base and load weapons/ammunition secretly

The ambassadors strong words make it seem like the US probably has some additional evidence of it they don't want to release for whatever reason.

Either way, I think the ultimate goal is to put pressure on South Africa, "with us or against us" type of thing.


Have any of that cargo unloaded in Port of Sudan or Beira where ship has docked before returning to Russia?
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May 15 2023 10:58am
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Have any of that cargo unloaded in Port of Sudan or Beira where ship has docked before returning to Russia?


In laymans terms, South Africa shipped weapons to Russia and the US is crying foul. the extent to which the US cries foul, and what it does as a consequence, is yet to be determined, its above that ambassador's pay grade.
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Quote (Malopox @ May 15 2023 01:55pm)
Have any of that cargo unloaded in Port of Sudan or Beira where ship has docked before returning to Russia?


I don't even know if they took the cargo, much less if it was dropped off somewhere, but I would say I don't think it matters much what actually happened, my opinion is that it is just being used to pressure South Africa, whether it it true or not.

When the US makes these kind of statements publicly I see it as an open threat against whatever country is accused of "wrongdoing"
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May 15 2023 11:32am
Amid rumors of his declining health, Lukashenko decided to appear in public.
He reinforced suspicions with this video as he spoke with obvious difficulty and looked like he was wearing makeup.

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1658152929214312454

That's an interesting question: what would happen if he goes away... ?
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May 15 2023 12:40pm
Looks like he had a stroke
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