Quote (CPK001 @ Jul 25 2018 08:44am)

Yeah, so?

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 25 2018 03:13pm)

Therefore God has no agency and only acts in a predetermined manner.

Not really something you would call God. We don’t call electricity God.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 26 2018 12:13am)

Therefore God has no agency and only acts in a predetermined manner.

Not really something you would call God. We don’t call electricity God.

Quote (CPK001 @ Jul 25 2018 06:32pm)

So because God knows the future and acts in a predetermined manner, he is not worthy of being called God?

So if I know the day, date and time when my house is going to be robbed surely I would act for that future event and be ready for it. Would that also mean that I don't have free will?

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 26 2018 11:52am)

You made a choice.

Things without free will, by definition, do not make choices.

Quote (CPK001 @ Jul 25 2018 10:53pm)

I call them robots, those things without free will. They are programmed to obey the orders that they are given.

Obviously that is not the case with God. Who do you think gave the 10 Commandments?

It is a very dangerous thing to do, making God in your own image. "If God is God then he has to be like this." Not only is it dangerous but it is also very foolish.

God reveals to us what he is like in The Bible as that is the word of God. Not reading The Bible to find out what God is like, then creating him in your own image. You might as well be neglecting George W. Bush's biography and making up your own philosophy about him.

Or better yet, you might as well throw away all of your books because you obviously think that your own mind has all the knowledge to judge what other people are like.

Quote (CPK001 @ Jul 25 2018 11:53pm)

I call them robots, those things without free will. They are programmed to obey the orders that they are given.

Obviously that is not the case with God. Who do you think gave the 10 Commandments?

It is a very dangerous thing to do, making God in your own image. "If God is God then he has to be like this." Not only is it dangerous but it is also very foolish.

God reveals to us what he is like in The Bible as that is the word of God. Not reading The Bible to find out what God is like, then creating him in your own image. You might as well be neglecting George W. Bush's biography and making up your own philosophy about him.

Or better yet, you might as well throw away all of your books because you obviously think that your own mind has all the knowledge to judge what other people are like.

Quote (KamelRed408 @ Jul 26 2018 03:56pm)

Thousands of gods. But im sure only yours is real eh.

:rofl: :wallbash:

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 26 2018 04:44pm)

Considering it is just a logical implication of what you said about God I think you should take the Planck out of your own eye.

Quote (CPK001 @ Jul 26 2018 04:28pm)

Yep, that's right.



It's spelled 'plank' and not 'planck'.

The truth hurts doesn't it? You have two choices, repent or perish. Luke 13:1-9 will testify to this. Live or die, sink or swim. It doesn't get more simple than that.