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Canadian ancestry:

The fertility of these women was incredible with an average of eight children per couple.

"good" version: These women were selected orphans (with a certificate of good conduct) then sent to Canada
" bad" version: Mentally ill prostitutes from Salpetriere Hospital. LMAO

Imho; it was both.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on May 6 2023 06:45pm

Last February, when it became clear that a full-scale Russian invasion was likely and imminent, the vast majority of Ukraine's population decided not to flee. Even today, a significant portion of Ukraine's female, underage and senior population has remained in the country although they would be free to leave.

Similarly, Zelensky had the option to leave Kyiv during the first weeks of the war, some of his advisors and international partners even urged him to flee, yet he refused. Note that this was at a time when the Russians were standing on the outskirts of Kyiv and it was a real possibility that they would overrun the Ukrainian defenses or accomplish a full encirclement and besiege the city.

Dito for many cities in the Eastern and Southern parts of Ukraine, cities like Kharkiv, Odessa or Mykolaiv: those are cities with a high share of Russian-speaker, cities which voted for Yanukovych over Tymoshenko during the 2010 presidential election that you and your ilk love to cite. It would have been easy for these cities to just roll over and surrender to the approaching Russian forces, yet they didn't.




So please explain to me how the West made this decision for the Ukrainian people, its president and mayors. Would Western intelligence have liquidated Zelensky had he refused to "play his role" as a warmonger? Did the West undermine all of Ukraine's local structures and place pro-Western, pro-War radicals in positions of power throughout the country so that they would "drag them into a war that the silent majority didn't want"?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 7 2023 12:37am

Where do you put the line between immigrants and refugees?
People who flee from Taliban occupied Afghanistan, refugees?
People who Iraq? Somalia? Etc.
They live in poor countries, and that is some risk for them.
Ireland is far away from Africa, far away from Belarus so you guys dont really have migrants.
You said Germany doing great, but do you know what happens when they catch an Iraq guy in Germany? They ask him "how did you get here" and he says them: "paid a plane to Belarus, then belarusians smuggled me at Polish border, then another group drive me to Germany". What happens next? Belarus is obviously not cooperating, so Germans send the guy to Poland to take care of him. Problem solved for Germany xD
Once again a poor Poland has to take care of all shit, while the more western countries just relax, send the immigrants to Poland and consider themselves good behaving, lol.

Welcome in Europe . Price to pay when your country want to deal with other rich country. You all take major part of migrant VS the right to deal with us. Understand that your country product things cheaper than other rich country in Europe, so it kill litle company here in rich country .
So if you dont want to take migrant you will not make deal with us anymore ,simple.
Someone on the top decided for all that Europe will be mixed ... Im against this , but WE must do with this , ans respect the part of pact.

This post was edited by Pisior on May 7 2023 01:41am

Yeah probably

Ok so we need to shield the Europe from immigrants, while fully respecting the guidelines made by countries who dont want to deal with immigrants and send them to us. Price to pay you say.
We also need to have a strong army to defend from Russians, while western NATO members dont give a fuck about military since they rely on Poland to defend them. Another price to pay.
Another thing is increasing climate protection rules, which drives inflation and make people poor. Poland is a cold country, we only have warm weather from mid-May till mid-September. Now its 10c, and I put on heating. So Polish people dont really understand why is warming bad, since all the time we are cold
So that makes 3 major costs. Quite a lot. What we get in return? As you said "Poland makes cheaper", so even you admit you pay Polish people less money than what you pay westerners.
There are many factories in China, India, Turkey they are also making your companies lose money? Why you dont ban them, if they are hurting you so much?
Do you know who really benefited in Poland from Poland joining EU? The people who left Poland. Honestly its not a very good idea to stay in Poland, when you can go to richer, safer countries, far away from Russia, that dont have to deal with immigrants smuggled from Belarus. In fact I stayed because most of my family stayed, and there is some racism abroad against Polish people, what we can see from Dizzy posts.
I think there should be some tax in EU, for people who move abroad. Not much, like 5-8% income. That would still allow people to move if they want, while the donating country would also get some money from them, for example to take care of older generation. because the social agreement is that younger generation takes care of older and mass emigration kind of breaks this agreement. (Cost no4)

Poland bombed poor Iraqis back to medieval ages (together with US) while Germany refused to cooperate in a blatant breach of international law.

I think it’s basic human decency that Poland (instead of Germany) now accepts refugees from a country it bombed.

Bad example. Choose another country to be racist.

This post was edited by Malopox on May 7 2023 03:42am

Iraq invasion was because Iraq was preparing Weapons Mass Destruction and had ties with alquaida which destroyed World Trade Center towers in New York.
Once a country aquires WMD you cant attack it, you are on their mercy forever. So sometimes politicians need to make courageus decisions, instead of hiding your head in the sand, as some coward westerners prefer to do.
Iraq gdp per capita was 1200usd in 2002, year before invasion, and 4500usd in 2006.
So as a result of our intervention, Iraq people became 3 times richer.

You are dodging my question, but okay, I will entertain this.

WMD and alqaeda links have been long debunked as non-existent. Saddam neither had WMD, had no intention to develop them or harbour alqaeda it seems: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/colin-powell-iraq-war/2021/10/18/179d66bc-3023-11ec-a880-a9d8c009a0b1_story.html

Interesting take on GDP per capita to justify a war. Would you say if Ukranian GDP goes three times up (14k or so) to the level of Russian GDP (35k?) then the Russian invasion is justified?