Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 6 2023 06:13pm)
Was the situation at the height of the American Civil War better than during the antebellum period?
Was the situation at the height of the Revolutionary War better than during the preceding British rule?
No, technically not because wars and revolutions always come with disruption and suffering. In spite of temporarily leading to a more unstable and perilous situation, they can still pave the way into a better long-term future. Following your logic, no war would ever be worth fighting.
At the end of the day, we don't know how this war will end and what Ukraine's long-term future will look like. Furthermore, it is not up to us to decide which kinds of sacrifices the Ukrainian people consider worthwhile.
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Rubbish,
Ukraine is backed by the West since 2014 there's literally no doubt about it. It's literally the West that decides for Ukraine what path to follow, lolQuote (Ironfister @ May 6 2023 07:11pm)
First of all Russians are angry that Ukrainians wanted to stay free.
So there is no coming back to more peaceful way, they will most probably want to punish Ukrainians, to make an example to the world that those who oppose Russian slavers end more tragical than those who peacefully accept being slaves.
Second of all Yanukovych presidence was a transition time, when he was trying to put Ukraine into Russian hands. But it was not a finished process, so Ukraine was not under Russian occupation yet, the process was stopped. It was kind of "baiting Ukraine" phase. Like the kidnapper driving a "come for candy" truck to lure children inside.
Also see what Black xistenz wrote, he is also right. War is a temporary situation. Peace can be signed any day. In fact we see by recent Prigozin letters that situation is bad at Russia side. That opens a window for negotiations.
Dude, the EU was baiting Ukraine (EU - Ukraine association and trade agreement). You don't know what happened, all you do is spinning a certain narrative all day long...
Euromaidan:
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In November 2013, a wave of large-scale protests (known as Euromaidan) began in response to President Yanukovych's sudden decision not to sign a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union (EU)