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May 5 2023 02:16pm
Quote (Santara @ 5 May 2023 21:54)
More than 5. Hypersonic.


Very low.

Hypersonic just means “faster than Mach 5,” but it’s commonly associated with advanced new weapons.

Kinzhal brings nothing new.

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May 5 2023 03:53pm
Quote (Santara @ May 5 2023 12:19pm)
A supposedly unstoppable Kinzhal hypersonic missile has been shot down by a Patriot battery. https://defence-blog.com/ukraine-shoots-down-russian-unstoppable-hypersonic-missile/


The video yesterday of Ukrainian forces shooting at their own drone, floating lazily over the capitol, in the most heavily defended airspace, traveling at low speed and low altitude with no evasive maneuvers, still showed them spending a long time and thousands of rounds missing it. Given the Ukrainian tendency to claim 25 missiles shot down out of 28 fired every time they get hit by 3, I think we could probably use a bit more evidence of a technologically impossible shootdown than a picture of an unidentifiable nosecone in a field.
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May 5 2023 04:30pm
Quote (Norlander @ 5 May 2023 16:04)
Prigozhin. Bakhmut. May, 10th.


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It is hard to believe anything Prigozhin says but I guess we will see on may 10th if they pull out or not, apparently the chechens are going to be replacing them if they do

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-vows-send-troops-bakhmut-replace-wagners-forces-1798722



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Quote (Norlander @ 6 May 2023 00:30)
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He made a second statement on a blanket
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1654537688874090498

Then Kadyrov bitch around
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1654552222145863680?

It's all messed up messages from multiple parties, not very serious.
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May 5 2023 07:44pm
Quote (Santara @ May 5 2023 09:54pm)
I think that's some pretty wild speculation, considering that even without an interceptor strike, these missiles are expected to pierce their targets (i.e. pass through a ship). Can't do that with a nose cone that disintegrates on contact.


That's not wild speculation it's logical thinking.

There's no material that can stay intact when experiencing such forces and certainly not that nose cone, it's main function is to shield the rocket from the extreme heat during flight and I'm 100% sure it would be obliterated when hit by a Patriot head on.

I guess underneath that nose cone would be the actual penetrator with the warhead placed further back to protect it when a hard target is penetrated.


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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 6 May 2023 01:33)
It is hard to believe anything Prigozhin says but I guess we will see on may 10th if they pull out or not, apparently the chechens are going to be replacing them if they do

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-vows-send-troops-bakhmut-replace-wagners-forces-1798722


My guess is they are going to take Bakhmut on May, 9th then leave it to RFAF before Ukrainian counter-offensive.
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May 6 2023 12:48am
Guys here is a real story from the past, about what happens when your country/village gets "liberated" by Kremlin. It will help you understand why the Ukrainians dont want to surrender to Russians, and fight back instead, and deserve support in their fight for freedom. The story took place 4months after joined nazi and ussr invasion on Poland.

February 10, 1940 came, my mother was baking bread, and here at dawn two sleighs with coachmen arrive: two ussr soldier and two NKVD members. First, we were read some sentence (the soldier translated it) that we were some kind of enemies and we were given two hours to assemble. But it was winter, we didnt have much, but what we had, they took from us, put them in eiderdowns and pillows, to help us stay warm. soldiers killed our chickens and put some lard in a bag with feathers, which they also gave us. The day before, my uncle ground us two sacks of rye and two sacks of wheat in the mill - they also threw it to us and said that it would come in handy, and as it turned out, it came in handy!

We were taken to Trembowla, loaded into freight cars with bunks and one family on each bunk. There was also a hole in the floor that served as a toilet. There were also two iron ovens, at the stations we were given coal and wood, we were also given water and food, including bread.

I remember that when we ran out of chickens, we had to eat their food, usually it was fish remainings soup, i.e. "ears" and groats smeared with oil. We vomited for a few days, but it took some getting used to. We were taken to Kotlas. We were transferred to trucks and imprisoned all day. The frost was "crawling", but we didn't even freeze in these eiderdowns. We spent the night in a very large hall and in the morning we went on a sleigh and rode again all day.

Finally, we were brought to our destination, they distributed us to barracks solidly built of wood, also with bunks, we were given five families, about 22 people, in one room. There was also a large stove in the barracks, there were forests around, so there was something to burn. We were also read every evening. My mother and I were assigned to operate the baths, and the others were assigned to work in the forest cutting down trees. We lived on what we earned, but I don't remember how much it was, but very little.

People began to die out en masse from malnutrition and overwork. We were also hungry. Our commandant was not angry, but no one opposed him either, he felt quite sorry for my mother, but demanded that at least two children be sent to an orphanage, because she would not be able to feed us all on her own. Well, she had to, but who was going? She didn't want to let me go because I was the oldest and that I would help her. Roman and Józef went voluntarily, later Roman died in this house in Pasporada. We were taken to Siktivkar. There my mother worked in a sawmill and so did others. We were also under control there, people were still dying a lot, we were still hungry, because what my mother earned was not even enough for bread, but my mother was also getting more and more ill, finally she was hospitalized for the fifth time and there she died of typhus a few days later being 35 years old.

I, a 15-year-old girl, was left alone because my siblings were in orphanages. At first, I entertained Russian children, but I had to work somehow, because I was not given a bread ration, I faked my age to be older, I started working on renovations as an assistant in a remkantor in Siktivkar.
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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 5 May 2023 22:11)
Ukrainian Air Force spokesman Yuriy Ignat said in a statement: "I have already refuted a thousand times, you should have seen it yesterday. There was a possibility of using ballistic missiles, but no ballistic missiles were recorded."

McMurican misinformation strikes again. Santara get a chance to read Ron Paul's thoughts on Ukraine yet? Or is your cold war propaganda riddled brain too busy reading the type of garbage you just posted?

Ooorahhhhh lmao


Russians keep data about khinzal confident. So does Ukrainians/Americans.
If they share information they have, for example how they shot it, this information could be potentially useful for Russia to make a next generation, better missile. Or to adjust Russian tactics.
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