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#26431
May 3 2023 04:47am
Quote (Ironfister @ May 3 2023 11:18am)
Differences:
-usa soldiers crashes empty cars, Russia crashes cars with people inside
-usa soldiers crash car after crime was commited, while Russians just genocide native Innocent Ukrainians
-usa soldiers get into serious disciplanary trouble for doing what was recorded in the video, while for Russia its perfectly fine to have criminals in the war, in fact Russia considers them best because they are violent enough to torture civilians.

These are three crucial differences between USA and Russia.
Honestly you all cant be serious with all this hate towards NATO/west/USA.
Sure, nobody is perfect, you cant really stay 100% clean and 100% Innocent when you fight terrorists, because that would put you in serious disadvantage. When soldiers go to war zone like Iraq they need to protect their own security.
West is a good, liberal, peaceful people, while Russia is bad, imperialistic, warmongers, mkey?

You are totaly brainwashed,. Nobody Can save you , maybe your TV ...
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#26432
May 3 2023 05:06am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 3 May 2023 12:09)
-Maybe Ukraine should stop using civilian vehicles to transport military personnel? And do you have a source for "Russia crushing people in their cars"?

-You shouldn't use the word genocide if you don't know what it means

-What consequences did they face? And which Russian soldiers were awarded for torturing civilians?

Bolded section- Does this only apply to the US and its allies?

That last sentence sounds like a 6 year old wrote it lol, you aren't doing a great job of refuting the stereotype that Poles are not very smart.


1) Russian tank smashing civilian car with people inside:
https://youtu.be/JzGyPIBlPTI

2) genocide means killing the whole nation, the whole group.
That's why Russia focuses on murdering teachers, journalist, intelligence, elites, while trying to use the less educated as soldiers or work force.
This is a typical Russian style of action: the more educated and Smart you are, the more likely Russians will kill you, instead of trying to convert/use you as a slave.
So while Russian aim is to kill only 30% Ukrainians, its not a random 30%, but a 30% that constitutes the nation.
So its a genocide of an Ukrainian nation, while not technically killing 100% Ukrainians.

3) Poles are smart, we survived 300 years of Russian and German occupation.
Maybe some people tried to make some money in the west without knowing the language, and that's where the stereotype came from. IDK.
It could also be that 300 years of foreign occupation, focused on killing the elites and educated ones, had some impact on lowering the average IQ of people, but its still bad to use such stereotypes.
IDK, never considered my country as stupid people.
I met many stupid foreign people, but dont know if they are more or less numerous than in Poland.

You guys in the west dont know that life can be harsh, you are used to being wealthy and you dont really have imagination how is the life under Russian occupation.
For many of you Putin is a nice guy on a motorbike, or giving children candies at a propaganda videos, while in reality he is evil villain.
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#26433
May 3 2023 05:45am
Quote (Ironfister @ May 3 2023 01:06pm)
1) Russian tank smashing civilian car with people inside:
https://youtu.be/JzGyPIBlPTI

2) genocide means killing the whole nation, the whole group.
That's why Russia focuses on murdering teachers, journalist, intelligence, elites, while trying to use the less educated as soldiers or work force.
This is a typical Russian style of action: the more educated and Smart you are, the more likely Russians will kill you, instead of trying to convert/use you as a slave.
So while Russian aim is to kill only 30% Ukrainians, its not a random 30%, but a 30% that constitutes the nation.
So its a genocide of an Ukrainian nation, while not technically killing 100% Ukrainians.

3) Poles are smart, we survived 300 years of Russian and German occupation.
Maybe some people tried to make some money in the west without knowing the language, and that's where the stereotype came from. IDK.
It could also be that 300 years of foreign occupation, focused on killing the elites and educated ones, had some impact on lowering the average IQ of people, but its still bad to use such stereotypes.
IDK, never considered my country as stupid people.
I met many stupid foreign people, but dont know if they are more or less numerous than in Poland.

You guys in the west dont know that life can be harsh, you are used to being wealthy and you dont really have imagination how is the life under Russian occupation.
For many of you Putin is a nice guy on a motorbike, or giving children candies at a propaganda videos, while in reality he is evil villain.


So I decided to check the first source you linked and also checked the comments.

In the comments I found this:

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Actually, the armored car is not a Russian tank, but a Strela-10 missile system. of design and Soviet-made, from the 70s, that system is operational by the Armed Forces Ukrainian and does not participate in the Russian operation because it is considered obsolete.


So I asked google about this and guess what I found (it's even a french MSM source,
Meanwhile
swallow your bile, lol): https://observers.france24.com/en/europe/20220301-video-debunked-russian-tank-crush-civilian-car-kyiv

Quotes from article:

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Ukraine: These videos do not show a Russian tank running over a civilian in Kyiv


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On Twitter, videos from February 25 showing a military tank running over a car in the Obolon district of Ukraine's capital city Kyiv have garnered over ten million views. But contrary to what some users claim, this is not a Russian tank deliberately running over a civilian. There are many indications that the incident actually involved a Ukrainian tank.


First you're contradicting yourself regarding NATO / Russia and now you're posting trash propaganda,
Ironfister


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#26434
May 3 2023 05:47am
Quote (Djunior @ 3 May 2023 13:45)
So I asked google about this and guess what I found (it's even a french MSM source, ^Meanwhile swallow your bile, lol): https://observers.france24.com/en/europe/20220301-video-debunked-russian-tank-crush-civilian-car-kyiv


Don't quote with your shitpost, you are the only one swallowing crap here.


Quote (Djunior @ 24 Feb 2022 09:44am)
Let's just forget they've prepared for this for 2 decades, have completely overhauled and modernized their military and just see where this will go. Great idea dude, Russia will win this war in 2-3 months, mark my words.

Quote (Djunior @ 20 Jan 2023 19:57)
Ukraine is going to get rekt, there can be no other outcome. Ukraine is buying time right now cuz emotional dumb shits are pumping the country full of weapons that will only delay the inevitable.

Quote (Djunior @ 5 Feb 2023 20:02)
The Ukrainian army is stretched to the limit while the Russian army is still building up (reports of "silent ongoing mobilization"). The advantage that Ukraine had before is nullified, the mix of newly announced Western weapons cannot change the inevitable (mix of various platforms is problematic and will take months to arrive anyways).

Quote (Djunior @ 27 Apr 2023 20:47)
When Russia determines that the Black Sea is vital for them, then it is for them.


This post was edited by Meanwhile on May 3 2023 05:48am
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#26435
May 3 2023 05:50am
Quote (Meanwhile @ May 3 2023 01:47pm)
Don't quote with your shitpost, you are the only one swallowing crap here.


I know you love your trash propaganda LMAO
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#26436
May 3 2023 05:52am
Quote (Meanwhile @ May 3 2023 01:47pm)
Don't quote with your shitpost, you are the only one swallowing crap here.


You're now posting 1) cherry picked snippets of discussion while 2) everyone understands Ukraine is only holding out because of massive Western support.

Suck up some more trash propaganda, loser
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#26437
May 3 2023 06:18am
The Kremlin was hit by a drone attack in the past few hours
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-drone-kremlin-moscow-c9c1bc382ce72cae66d19a0498f6aac0

two drones shot down and videos of smoke and fire over the kremlin
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1653728913711943680
Russia claims it was an assassination attempt on Putin by Ukraine



At this point there's really no way this doesn't escalate. The question is what forms of escalation remain for Russia short of the nuclear option. NATO powers launching attacks on the Kremlin is by far the closest we've come to world war III since the end of world war II, we're past the Cuban Missile Crisis now
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#26438
May 3 2023 06:26am
Quote (Goomshill @ May 3 2023 02:18pm)
The Kremlin was hit by a drone attack in the past few hours
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-drone-kremlin-moscow-c9c1bc382ce72cae66d19a0498f6aac0

two drones shot down and videos of smoke and fire over the kremlin
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1653728913711943680
Russia claims it was an assassination attempt on Putin by Ukraine



At this point there's really no way this doesn't escalate. The question is what forms of escalation remain for Russia short of the nuclear option. NATO powers launching attacks on the Kremlin is by far the closest we've come to world war III since the end of world war II, we're past the Cuban Missile Crisis now


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#26439
May 3 2023 06:29am
Quote (Goomshill @ 3 May 2023 14:18)
The Kremlin was hit by a drone attack in the past few hours
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-drone-kremlin-moscow-c9c1bc382ce72cae66d19a0498f6aac0

two drones shot down and videos of smoke and fire over the kremlin
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1653728913711943680
Russia claims it was an assassination attempt on Putin by Ukraine



At this point there's really no way this doesn't escalate. The question is what forms of escalation remain for Russia short of the nuclear option. NATO powers launching attacks on the Kremlin is by far the closest we've come to world war III since the end of world war II, we're past the Cuban Missile Crisis now


Russia tried to assassinate Zelensky several times, so even if what you say is true it's not a big deal.
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#26440
May 3 2023 06:30am
Quote (Goomshill @ 3 May 2023 14:18)
The Kremlin was hit by a drone attack in the past few hours
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-drone-kremlin-moscow-c9c1bc382ce72cae66d19a0498f6aac0

two drones shot down and videos of smoke and fire over the kremlin
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1653728913711943680
Russia claims it was an assassination attempt on Putin by Ukraine



At this point there's really no way this doesn't escalate. The question is what forms of escalation remain for Russia short of the nuclear option. NATO powers launching attacks on the Kremlin is by far the closest we've come to world war III since the end of world war II, we're past the Cuban Missile Crisis now


I refuse to believe Ukrainians / NATO are this reckless.

Most probably a false flag / some locals.
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