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Apr 30 2023 01:06am
Quote (Djunior @ Apr 30 2023 08:36am)
YOU are happy that young Ukrainian men are being thrown at Russian defensive positions, not surprising because you've been applauding every escalation but you still don't realize that it will only lead to more dead Ukrainians SMH

And Ukrainian corruption has been fixed huh. You should save that copium for yourself :rofl:


And if television says so? 😅

Haha just kidding

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Apr 30 2023 02:33am
Quote (Djunior @ 30 Apr 2023 08:36)
YOU are happy that young Ukrainian men are being thrown at Russian defensive positions, not surprising because you've been applauding every escalation but you still don't realize that it will only lead to more dead Ukrainians SMH

And Ukrainian corruption has been fixed huh. You should save that copium for yourself :rofl:


What we would like is Russia to stop the war and leave Ukraine, an EU candidate state.
But since we cant have, the right thing could be to defend.
Usually the victim has 2 options.
-Run
-Fight back
Its up to Ukrainians to decide. We dont really force them to defend their country from the villains, rapists and murderers. What we can and will do is support the victim.
Some facts for you:
Russians are doing pretty bad on the war. They are on their way to bankruptcy. Now they have little money from oil sales. They bring older and older equipment to the war. They have little ammo.
On the other hand they do have more population that could potentially be mobilized, but every mobilization wave means a political risk and economical as well.
On the other hand Ukraine, as a democratic country, an EU candidate and NATO friend, gets financial and political support.
I could be wrong, but I believe Ukrainians are on a good way to stop Russians.
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Apr 30 2023 02:39am
Quote (Djunior @ 30 Apr 2023 06:36)
YOU are happy that young Ukrainian men are being thrown at Russian defensive positions, not surprising because you've been applauding every escalation but you still don't realize that it will only lead to more dead Ukrainians SMH

And Ukrainian corruption has been fixed huh. You should save that copium for yourself :rofl:


Only ruscists like you are thinking that assassinating children and women 400 kilometers away from frontline is normal and that nothing should be done.
Ukraine chose its destiny: away from Putin's regime and... Corruption. especially if they want to join EU...
The food corruption scandal you were talking about has been fixed. No doubt you will circle jerk around this issue instead of talking about the conflict itself.
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Apr 30 2023 02:45am
Quote (Ironfister @ Apr 30 2023 10:33am)
What we would like is Russia to stop the war and leave Ukraine, an EU candidate state.
But since we cant have, the right thing could be to defend.
Usually the victim has 2 options.
-Run
-Fight back
Its up to Ukrainians to decide. We dont really force them to defend their country from the villains, rapists and murderers. What we can and will do is support the victim.
Some facts for you:
Russians are doing pretty bad on the war. They are on their way to bankruptcy. Now they have little money from oil sales. They bring older and older equipment to the war. They have little ammo.
On the other hand they do have more population that could potentially be mobilized, but every mobilization wave means a political risk and economical as well.
On the other hand Ukraine, as a democratic country, an EU candidate and NATO friend, gets financial and political support.
I could be wrong, but I believe Ukrainians are on a good way to stop Russians.


Ukraine had the change to end the war last year (April 1st I believe) but negotiations were ended and everything points to the West / NATO telling Zelensky to not accept the terms.

@Bolded: Yes that's what you all think which is why NATO bet on the Ukrainians, turning Ukraine into a NATO proxy to fight the Russians. Result: A whole bunch of dead Ukrainians and their country ruined.

Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 30 2023 10:39am)
Only ruscists like you are thinking that and that nothing should be done.
Ukraine chose its destiny: away from Putin's regime and... Corruption. especially if they want to join EU...
The food corruption scandal you were talking about has been fixed. No doubt you will circle jerk around this issue instead of talking about the conflict itself.


Another TRASH post

What I'm saying every single time is that it all could've been avoided.

Show me where I said "assassinating children and women 400 kilometers away from frontline is normal". Shit poster

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Apr 30 2023 03:02am
Russian state TV used images of this week’s missile strike on a block of flats in Ukraine’s Uman which killed 23 civilians to illustrate the "shelling of Donbas by Ukrainian militants"



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Apr 30 2023 03:19am
Meanwhile is a media sheep, he loose his Time to found some news 100% against russia all days and post here. Nice life !
Stop Fake empathy, you juste hate russia befor this war
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Apr 30 2023 03:50am
Quote (Djunior @ 30 Apr 2023 10:45)
Ukraine had the change to end the war last year (April 1st I believe) but negotiations were ended and everything points to the West / NATO telling Zelensky to not accept the terms.

@Bolded: Yes that's what you all think which is why NATO bet on the Ukrainians, turning Ukraine into a NATO proxy to fight the Russians. Result: A whole bunch of dead Ukrainians and their country ruined.



Nope, there was no chance the end the war back then.
Other than more or less victim capitulate to villain.
Is Ukraine ruined? Not really. Of course the frontline is ruined, but in Russia free areas its fine. The life goes on there.
What is the other option for Ukrainians? Surrender to Russians, so they will be enslaved, conscripted into Russian army or sent to workcamps. Either way they would get into war, but now at least they choose the side they fight, they fight the villains, and get some chances of survival.
In a Putin army you dont have a chance to survive, he sends soldier to die. Not a great perspective.
Remember that jews were forced to work for nazists in the workcamps. I think I would rather die fighting nazi, than die anyway in the work camp.
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Apr 30 2023 05:07am
Quote (Ironfister @ 30 Apr 2023 12:50)
Nope, there was no chance the end the war back then.
Other than more or less victim capitulate to villain.
Is Ukraine ruined? Not really. Of course the frontline is ruined, but in Russia free areas its fine. The life goes on there.
What is the other option for Ukrainians? Surrender to Russians, so they will be enslaved, conscripted into Russian army or sent to workcamps. Either way they would get into war, but now at least they choose the side they fight, they fight the villains, and get some chances of survival.
In a Putin army you dont have a chance to survive, he sends soldier to die. Not a great perspective.
Remember that jews were forced to work for nazists in the workcamps. I think I would rather die fighting nazi, than die anyway in the work camp.


Or become an overseer in a concentration camp. Should I mention that there were no such camps in Germany. They all were built up in Eastern Europe, ran by few nazis, but all the staff were local xenophobes, chauvinists and anti-Semites. There's nothing wrong with nationalism you once told us. This beliefs were used by nazis to involve Poland to Holocaust directly.

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Apr 30 2023 05:10am
Quote (Ironfister @ Apr 30 2023 11:50am)
Nope, there was no chance the end the war back then.
Other than more or less victim capitulate to villain.
Is Ukraine ruined? Not really. Of course the frontline is ruined, but in Russia free areas its fine. The life goes on there.
What is the other option for Ukrainians? Surrender to Russians, so they will be enslaved, conscripted into Russian army or sent to workcamps. Either way they would get into war, but now at least they choose the side they fight, they fight the villains, and get some chances of survival.
In a Putin army you dont have a chance to survive, he sends soldier to die. Not a great perspective.
Remember that jews were forced to work for nazists in the workcamps. I think I would rather die fighting nazi, than die anyway in the work camp.


You really live in your imaginary World kurwa , stop to watch TV .
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Apr 30 2023 05:19am
Quote (Ironfister @ Apr 30 2023 11:50am)
Nope, there was no chance the end the war back then.
Other than more or less victim capitulate to villain.
Is Ukraine ruined? Not really. Of course the frontline is ruined, but in Russia free areas its fine. The life goes on there.
What is the other option for Ukrainians? Surrender to Russians, so they will be enslaved, conscripted into Russian army or sent to workcamps. Either way they would get into war, but now at least they choose the side they fight, they fight the villains, and get some chances of survival.
In a Putin army you dont have a chance to survive, he sends soldier to die. Not a great perspective.
Remember that jews were forced to work for nazists in the workcamps. I think I would rather die fighting nazi, than die anyway in the work camp.


Do you work for the Polish Propaganda Organization?
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