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Apr 28 2023 04:06am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 28 2023 12:39am)
Imagine doing direct comparison of national cohesion in-between France and Ukraine+Russia. I will pass on the size.
Starting from 800 with France already formed (Charlemagne) while Ukraine was just born with Vikings & Kiyv. (Moscow didnt even exist). Then whole Mongols era
The territory evolution is very different and slavery then serfdom chronology is even inversed (Catherine II). Up the Russian Empire "conquests".
Then the whole soviet 'block" with Holomodor and shit... With modern history it's even worse.

I would delete my account lol.


Ukranians are descendands from arya that never mixed with jews and arabs. Their history is far older than 800 years.

Actually zelensky lineage can be traced to the caspain sea and close to tehran. His people established persia/media but left before, to keep his genes clean

This post was edited by ownyaah on Apr 28 2023 04:11am
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Apr 28 2023 05:03am
Protoukrs dug the Black Sea with pots for borscht and filled the Caucasus with used ground. The path was long and they oftenly had to sh*t in the process. This is how fertile Ukrainian land appeared.



This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 28 2023 05:25am
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Apr 28 2023 05:25am
Ruscist attack on civilians: Ukrainian air defence destroyed 21 out of 23 missiles and 2 UAVs.
Still : 6 people were killed in the attack, including a mother and her 3-year-old daughter in Dnipro.

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Ukranians are descendands from arya that never mixed with jews and arabs. Their history is far older than 800 years.
Actually zelensky lineage can be traced to the caspain sea and close to tehran. His people established persia/media but left before, to keep his genes clean


Sure Zelensky not pure aryan ashkenazi right ? His Patriotic genes must be ashamed ....
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Apr 28 2023 08:10am
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You are entitled to your own opinion. I will accept your position however, that you did speed it up. if you edit your post snipa i will take this out. did you mis-speak?


"the USA sped it up" can both be likely true and impossible for us to quantify.

this is important when contrasted with statements like "the USA goaded russia by supporting the revolution" or "just like iraq, lybia, etc".

in reality here's what we know:

-the revolution had grassroots support before we got involved, not due to CIA action but due to the ending of EU trade talks
-the revolution took about a month
-the revolution was carried out mostly by unarmed civilians

relevant questions:

-what did we even do to speed up the process?
-how much longer would it have taken if we did nothing?

we didn't ship them guns, we didnt send in soldiers, i dont even see that we did much of anything other than provide some intel. and given they took building after building under sniper fire i dont see what difference that made, although im sure it did on a micro level.

so in reality we turned a 6 week revolution into a 4 week revolution, maybe. "the USA was involved" is stated in this thread so automatically it makes me laugh. it's a bunch of dudes saying "i know how they built the pyramids, i saw a youtube video on it". we dont know shit. except that we didnt see rebels armed with american ar-15s or army fatigues fighting the pro-russian govt.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 28 2023 08:12am
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Apr 28 2023 08:16am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 28 2023 10:25am)
Djunioristan's is shit eventually.
Don't forget: RUSCISM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruscism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFW3XOPBWfE

lol yes.


Rucism???

You should GTFO with your trash posts.

You seriously think I'm going to look into made-up shit like that just because YOU hate Russia? LOL

Come back when you have a real argument instead of dumb shit like that ;)

what do you think of his latest attempt to derail the debate? --> Rucism :wacko:

This post was edited by Djunior on Apr 28 2023 08:20am
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Rucism???

You should GTFP with your trash posts.

You seriously think I'm going to look into made-up shit like that just because YOU hate Russia? LOL

Come back when you have a real argument instead of dumb shit like that ;)

^Ferdia what do you think of his latest attempt to derail the debate? --> Rucism :wacko:


, , ,

I am actually waiting on more news on the hour call with China from Zelensky and what was being discussed.
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Apr 28 2023 08:21am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 28 2023 03:20pm)
^Ferdia, ^ownyaah, ^Malopox, ^Nolander

I am actually waiting on more news on the hour call with China from Zelensky and what was being discussed.


its irrelevant, Ukraine is about to do their counter offensive. look at it in 3-6 months time.
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Apr 28 2023 08:34am
Quote (Djunior @ 28 Apr 2023 16:16)
Rucism???
You should GTFO with your trash posts.
You seriously think I'm going to look into made-up shit like that just because YOU hate Russia? LOL
Come back when you have a real argument instead of dumb shit like that ;)
^Ferdia what do you think of his latest attempt to derail the debate? --> Rucism :wacko:


not "Rucism", but "Ruscism": It is very well explained here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruscism

You should really read it:

RUSCISM is a term used by a number of scholars, politicians and publicists to describe the political ideology and social practices of the Russian state in the late 20th and early 21st centuries, and especially during the rule of Vladimir Putin. "Ruscism" and "Russism" are portmanteaus combining the words 'Russian' and 'fascism'

Finally it's all clear now.
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Apr 28 2023 08:42am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 28 2023 04:34pm)
not "Rucism", but "Ruscism": It is very well explained here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruscism

You should really read it:

RUSCISMis a term used by a number of scholars, politicians and publicists to describe the political ideology and social practices of the Russian state in the late 20th and early 21st centuries, and especially during the rule of Vladimir Putin. "Ruscism" and "Russism" are portmanteaus combining the words 'Russian' and 'fascism'

Finally it's all clear now.


Come back when you have an actual argument instead of this nonsense.

Oh wait you're that guy that used to REEE about "populism" another made-up word that sounds more evil than the opposition (the correct word used to point out political opponents).

I don't know if you realize it but you just make yourself look bad with these trash posts.

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Apr 28 2023 09:22am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 28 Apr 2023 17:20)
^Ferdia, ^ownyaah, ^Malopox, ^Nolander

I am actually waiting on more news on the hour call with China from Zelensky and what was being discussed.


After the first talks between Xi and Zelensky since the beginning of the special operation, China created a delegation on the settlement in Ukraine, headed by the former Beijing ambassador to Moscow

The Chinese delegation to resolve the crisis in Ukraine was headed by former Chinese Ambassador to Russia Li Hui, South China Morning Post reports.

“The envoy, former Vice Foreign Minister Li Hui, will be the highest-ranking Chinese official to set foot on Ukrainian soil since [the conflict] began. He was Chinese Ambassador to Russia for 10 years, from 2009-2019.

Chinese "President" Xi Jinping said earlier on April 26 that China would send a representative for consultations on a political settlement of the Ukrainian crisis.

“China will send a government special representative for Eurasian affairs to Ukraine and other countries to conduct in-depth consultations with all parties on a political settlement of the Ukrainian crisis,” Xinhua quoted Xi as saying.

After Xi's phone call, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky signed a decree appointing Pavel Ryabikin as Ambassador to China. Since February 2021, when Ambassador Serguei Kamyshev died, there was no Ukrainian ambassador to China, the case was handled by a charge d'affaires.

The first telephone conversation between Zelensky and Xi after the start of the special operation took place earlier on April 26. Beijing reported that during the conversation, Xi called dialogue the only way to resolve the conflict in Ukraine, and also pointed out that there can be no winners in a nuclear war.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said on Twitter that the conversation took place at the initiative of the Ukrainian side. According to her (?), China will send a special representative to Ukraine and other countries to discuss the settlement of the crisis.

Zelenskiy said the conversation was "long and meaningful." “I believe that this conversation, as well as the appointment of the Ukrainian ambassador to China, will give a powerful impetus to the development of our bilateral relations,” the Ukrainian president said. The former Ukrainian ambassador to Beijing, Serguei Kamyshev, died in February 2021 at the age of 64.

Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that Russia welcomes China's willingness to make efforts to establish a negotiation process in Ukraine, but Kyiv demonstrates "rejection of any sensible initiatives." According to her, Russia's approaches to resolving the conflict in Ukraine have "broad consonance" with the approaches of China, but the problem is "not a lack of good plans."

In her opinion, Ukraine shows “rejection of any sensible initiatives”, and also links the agreement to negotiations with ultimatums with “obviously unrealistic demands”.

This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 28 2023 09:30am
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