fair enough, most npc's here dont get that at all

russia not going to turn into a democracy even when putin is gone and we dont buy oil from them for a few years

there is no alternative to sanctions, but people expect way too much especially since nations like china and india arent even joining

especially here in europe its just appalling how polticians have no problem impoverishing citizens even more (as if covid wasnt enough) to "show putin who is boss" and pushing their agenda while pretending to help ukraine

the german government cant even send proper weapons, but they tell us to eat less meat and how 15 degrees celsius in your house are enough

Oh were was more already ? ty info
btw you better quote people else they don't know that you responded

its a habit, your not the first to say this to me! apparently its "passive aggressive behavior", or so i have been told (i just call it being lazy on my part XD)



If you want to take that analogy 1 step further - its not his forest anymore, he has retreated further and further as his habitat is encroached upon. eventually his species will die out as occurs in nature for a variety of species. the only problem with this analogy is that other species dont have nuclear weapons (or well, does covid count? wait no, that was engineered by humans not nature, so nevermind) whoops I went all conspiracy theory there.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 24 2022 09:42am

Perhaps, but are you trying to obfusticate what you mentioned earlier (and that I agree with), that the initiative is in USA hands and they have been for many years proactively pushing Russia into a tighter and tighter corner? Isn't that aggressive and expansionalist?



If you have to make a choice, why does it have to be against Russia? Why not use the democratic means to demand your government stop such expansionist policies and step on other big powers' toes in their own front yards?
PS: I don't assign blame to American voters or citizens, but I think your system doesn't allow this... You have no real say about this.



I hope American administration has a better plan than that

Both are expansionist powers. The American yolk is considerably lighter, though, because it accompanies economic growth and far less oppression.

The United States has the right to do whatever it wants. Russia has no right to the Ukraine outside of what it can militarily impose. As we're learning, Russia's reach is very short indeed.

Now, is American policy here, specifically with respect to central bank sanctions, going to backfire? Perhaps, time will tell, but I'm tired of these farcical arguments to the effect of "Russia has a right to sovereignty over Ukraine". They have a right to nothing that they can't seize with their own hands.

Russia is not expansionist. America is not expansionist either. Nato is expansionist. Who said that Russia had a sovereignty over Ukraine? Can you link the post please ? Finally, I dont agree that because one is bigger ergo one have the right to bully other people.

also from Russian Media ~

BRUSSELS, March 24. /TASS/. NATO will not send forces to Ukraine, because it would lead to a full-scale conflict with Russia, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said at a press conference Thursday. "At the same time, we have a responsibility to ensure that the conflict [in Ukraine] does not become a full-fledged war between NATO and Russia," Stoltenberg said, answering a question about Poland’s proposal to send a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine. "We will not deploy troops on the ground in Ukraine, because the only way to do that is to be prepared to engaged in a full conflict with Russian troops".

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 24 2022 09:57am

because i side with bad over worse. again, refusing to take sides in a binary is cowardice, not heroism. i dont want to stop putting russia into a chokehold, i want another fall of the soviet union and hopefully sending their nukes into the sun if possible. a nice dream to maintain in any case.

A bit too right-wing for my taste but I respect this argument as wholesome, not self contradictory nor hypocritical

I think he was suggesting that another option, or side, would be to vote for another party, one which is not warmongering on the far side of the planet. completely unrealistic of course in american society noting the sides are so entrenched and the state of its media, but still.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 24 2022 10:00am

sure, and im not for letting Russia be a shit tier dictatorship that oppresses it's own people while spending inordinate percentages of their budget on weaponry and cyber warfare. im not for all out war but im not against economic sanctions or selling ukranians as many weapons as they want. what will the part of peace and love get us?