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Quote (theCrossbones @ Mar 31 2021 07:51pm)
So the appropriate reaction to a drug od is a knee to the neck? Or was he saying he cant breath as he had cardiac arrest ? So is it the effects of choke holds your an expert on? Or the peak effect timeline of fentanyl? You seem to have a lot of critical street info. Except of course the knee part. Not of importance. Lol



Oh. And he was cuffed and not a threat any more If he ever was
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 31 2021 09:51pm)
Add literally the EXACT SAME DEPARTMENT killing a guy the same way 10 years ago..
Minneapolis paid out $3 million to settle a lawsuit over the 2010 death of David Smith, 28. The young black man was mentally ill, his attorneys said, and died after officers Tasered him and then held him facedown on the floor for several minutes. One of them kept a knee on his back even after he stopped responding to questions.


NU UH. HE WAS OVERDOSING

Quote (UmadLoL @ Mar 31 2021 09:49pm)
If you are talking about the knee maneuver, their department trains their officers to use it so it’s not illegal.

As far as the medical attention goes, you can be sued for moving a person who has been in a car crash before proper medical attentions arrives, I’m sure the same would apply if they just let any random off the street who says they are trained do cpr etc. they called an ambulance, the proper way of treating the suspect.


Officers are trained to shoot people too. Doesn't mean you can't press charges if they shoot at the wrong time.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 31 2021 10:51pm)
Add literally the EXACT SAME DEPARTMENT killing a guy the same way 10 years ago..
Minneapolis paid out $3 million to settle a lawsuit over the 2010 death of David Smith, 28. The young black man was mentally ill, his attorneys said, and died after officers Tasered him and then held him facedown on the floor for several minutes. One of them kept a knee on his back even after he stopped responding to questions.




Since you're introducing new evidence... a link or three would be appropriate.
Not opinion links, ofc.

/e Not links dated this year or last year.

This post was edited by Ghot on Mar 31 2021 08:56pm
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 31 Mar 2021 19:48)
Literally typed knee on neck death into google.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4c-1SBWAXM
Found a death related to this hold instantly.
And another
https://apnews.com/article/9612534be8b3885bcbf9d80a36a020bb


https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/02/update-antioch-police-deny-officers-kneeled-on-neck-of-navy-vet/

Funny, but where's the video? California does not approve of the knee on the neck in restraint. It's one state where such training is NOT allowed, and given California has required Shoulder Cams for a decade, if there was video evidence of a "knee on the neck" it'd already be public.

Likewise, the second article is alleging something without any facts, evidence, or proof, and using the Floyd case as a means to file a civil suit.

You're not posting proof here. You're posting allegations in a desperate attempt to prove something you simply can't prove.

Quote (Plaguefear @ 31 Mar 2021 19:51)
Add literally the EXACT SAME DEPARTMENT killing a guy the same way 10 years ago..
Minneapolis paid out $3 million to settle a lawsuit over the 2010 death of David Smith, 28. The young black man was mentally ill, his attorneys said, and died after officers Tasered him and then held him facedown on the floor for several minutes. One of them kept a knee on his back even after he stopped responding to questions.

So that's four so far, in 5 minutes on google, pretty sure i can probably find a few more..


That's not even alleging a knee on the neck at all. As a point in fact, in that case, the knee was pressed hard between the shoulder blades, and caused mechanical asphyxiations. Literally, the officer compressed Smith's lungs. This was not a possibility in the Floyd case, and that method of restraint went AGAINST the department's official training.

Try harder, Matt.

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Quote (Ghot @ Apr 1 2021 01:55pm)
Since you're introducing new evidence... a link or three would be appropriate.
Not opinion links, ofc.


https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/865341322/minneapolis-police-were-sued-a-decade-ago-in-similar-restraint-case
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No... lol.

A link from a decade ago... not a revisionist history link.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 1 2021 01:56pm)
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/02/update-antioch-police-deny-officers-kneeled-on-neck-of-navy-vet/

Funny, but where's the video? California does not approve of the knee on the neck in restraint. It's one state where such training is NOT allowed, and given California has required Shoulder Cams for a decade, if there was video evidence of a "knee on the neck" it'd already be public.

Likewise, the second article is alleging something without any facts, evidence, or proof, and using the Floyd case as a means to file a civil suit.

You're not posting proof here. You're posting allegations in a desperate attempt to prove something you simply can't prove.


Going to take the word of the family that were eye witnesses to the murder over the pigs who have been proven repeatedly to lie whenever they murder someone.

Quote (Ghot @ Apr 1 2021 01:57pm)
No... lol.

A link from a decade ago... not a revisionist history link.


Go find the court transcripts, i am not your secretary, they were sued for killing someone by holding him down with a knee and they paid 3 million dollars.

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Going to take the word of the family that were eye witnesses to the murder over the pigs who have been proven repeatedly to lie whenever they murder someone.




Granted the video IS dated 2010, however, just like all "evidence" that's popped up since the Floyd incident... it's an except. :/

This post was edited by Ghot on Mar 31 2021 09:01pm
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minneapolis-police-rendered-44-people-unconscious-neck-restraints-five-years-n1220416
They were bound to kill someone sooner or later.
Not ever sure why this is a discussion, floyd stopped breathing THREE MINUTES before they let the hold loose.
That's murder.

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Quote (Plaguefear @ 31 Mar 2021 19:58)
Going to take the word of the family that were eye witnesses to the murder over the pigs who have been proven repeatedly to lie whenever they murder someone.


I've watched videos of families who call the police on their own family member, the family member then literally shoots at or tries to stab the officers, then the families claim that the officers "murdered" their family member.

No, I'm not going to "take their word". Especially given most civil suits against major police departments turn the families of criminals into overnight millionaires. Of course the family wants to get paid.
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