Well duh

Lord have mercy. Half of social security and medicare taxes are directly paid by the corporation.

Right, I forgot, we should all be thankful for all those companies who selflessly provide services and goods to their customers without getting anything in return.

There is nothing wrong with getting something in return

that doesnt mean they arent serving anyone else.

right i forgot, we cant be intellectually honest enough to admit that private companies provide valuable goods and services to others

Private companies do the best job. Government ran healthcare is a nightmare for example. The largest and most successful healthcare systems are non-governmental and non-profit. For-profit hospitals are synonymous with bad outcomes.

Not only do I imagine, but I do, pretty useful.

Not entirely true, but close enough. This might be the first factually correct statement I've ever seen you make. Kudos.

This post was edited by LA-Leviathan on Jun 23 2019 11:42am

I know I shouldn't argue with retards but lets see if we can figure out your thinking here.

My company has 100 million dollars in revenue.
I get taxed and million or dollars goes to the govt

or

30 million dollars goes towards payroll and thus is taxed and millions of dollars goes to the govt.

What is the difference? Of the money my company made, it ended up as taxes that go to the govt coffers. This isn't "amazon pays no taxes" because if amazon didnt exist, you'd be out millions of dollars and see a negative. Not to mention all the jobs accompanying it.

cambovenzi II

I'm sure there are some bomb ass private hospitals for wealthy people where money isn't a problem. I'm talking about the for-profit hospitals that you would go to and use private insurance at...places without emergency rooms so they aren't subject to EMTALA and therefore not part of the American uninsured but universal healthcare scheme. They will treat you until the insurance company says they can and will discharge you without thought for your condition or what happens to you. They usually discharge, are in the community for less than 24 hours, and end up in an ER with their benefits exhausted. They get treated and end up with huge medical bills with very limited options while inpatient.



Amazon workers pay their own wages with their labor output and their surplus labor value is what becomes the profit. There are dudes that identify what to buy from where and dudes that move stuff from A to B. Those are the guys who make the money at Amazon. They pay their own salaries, their own benefits, the benefits and salaries of their managers including Jeff "Alimony" Bezos, and then create so much more value beyond that which pays for their human resources, gets reinvested into the company, and goes into shareholder pockets.

No matter how you look at it, it is the workers paying all taxes, really three, as they are paying their own taxes in a crude way off paycheck, they are having most of the value they create moved to multiple places where they are taxed again in the form of capital gains for their masters after they pay them to be their masters, and taxation in general on the company, whose model is based upon their actions completely. Not all, but the vast majority of value is based on labor, as best can be guessed.