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Aug 24 2018 10:53am
Quote (Horford @ Aug 24 2018 10:47am)
Ghot disappeared, I expected more of a fight but i guess it's getting harder and harder for him to fight the facts :/

not a good week for him :/


ghot = trump confirmed
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ghot = trump confirmed



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Aug 24 2018 11:02am
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ghot = trump confirmed


ghot MAY be smarter than Trump though, which is extremely frightening.
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Aug 24 2018 11:42am
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ghot MAY be smarter than Trump though, which is extremely frightening.


Honestly seems like an insult to Trump.
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Honestly seems like an insult to Trump.


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Aug 24 2018 12:16pm
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it's almost like Trump has multiple governors that dislike him and would instantly bring charges on a state level if and when trump pardons them on the federal level.

now please tell me again that double jeopardy counts in 2 different jurisdictions (state and federal) so i can have another good laugh at your legal ignorance. double jeopardy counts only for the same jurisdiction, not 2 different ones, like the federal and state system. thus Trump only being able to pardon in ONE and the 50 governors having the power to pardon in the 50 other jurisdictions.

go ahead and deny that governors would charge manafort to get him, there's about 20 with overt political motivations that would do it just to fuck up trump. they wont bother charging manafort unless he's pardoned, its beating a dead horse.

post that pic again genius, but this time in the mirror.




If Trump pardons Manafort and then a state brings up charges, that would involve double jeopardy, which isn't legal. But you would know that, since you took 5th grade Civics. :/
Oh, and I'll let the NY AG explain double jeopardy to you. You're getting really good at being wrong.


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When asked directly about the Manafort and Cohen cases, the New York State Attorney General's Office, which would likely be the office to prosecute any crimes related to Cohen, who was based in the state, told ABC News it cannot comment on potential or ongoing investigations.

But the office did note that it has been fighting to close a loophole in the state's double jeopardy laws, intended to protect someone from being tried for the same crime more than once, that could effectively stop someone who has been pardoned at the federal level from facing similar state charges.

"New York’s double jeopardy laws go well beyond constitutional requirements and the standards used by many other states – and could unintentionally insulate someone pardoned by the president from subsequent prosecution for related state crimes," spokesperson Amy Spitalnick of the New York State Attorney General's office said.













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If Trump pardons Manafort and then a state brings up charges, that would involve double jeopardy, which isn't legal. But you would know that, since you took 5th grade Civics. :/
Oh, and I'll let the NY AG explain double jeopardy to you. You're getting really good at being wrong.






https://i.imgur.com/3bzr7Cs.png


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Double jeopardy only applies to one jurisdiction at a time. A state government cannot bring a second prosecution against you for the same state crime once you've been acquitted. The same goes for the federal government regarding a federal offense.


https://www.wklaw.com/double-jeopardy-federal/

i expect u to apologize.

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It doesn’t matter whether you’ve already been prosecuted by one jurisdiction, nor does the outcome matter. You can be prosecuted in state court for the state offense and then stand trial for the same act in a federal court if it is also a federal offense.


and vice versa

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 24 2018 12:21pm
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Aug 24 2018 12:23pm
all this doesnt matter because Trump can pardon himself, checkmate...

btw



why immunity ?
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Aug 24 2018 12:24pm
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Well, the New York Attorney General disagrees with you and your link. And since NY really hates Trump, I'll take their word for it.

I don't expect you to apologize. ^^

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Aug 24 2018 12:29pm
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Well, the New York Attorney General disagrees with you and your link. And since NY really hates Trump, I'll take their word for it.

I don't expect you to apologize. ^^


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But the office did note that it has been fighting to close a loophole in the state's double jeopardy laws


and you think that anyone tried federal before would be grandfathered in if the loophole closes? or are you just leaning on a single state in order to make your case?

how do you feel the USSC would rule on a loophole the state intends to remove that is unconstitutional? because we all know they dont look at that wrinkly old piece of paper for direct contradictions.

just admit it, your pants are around your ankles and the crisco can is wide open. u fucked up and like always the water is 10 feet above your head in all matters of legality.

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that could effectively stop someone who has been pardoned at the federal level from facing similar state charges


could =/= would, could = potential appeal.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 24 2018 12:30pm
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