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Apr 19 2023 12:08pm
Quote (ferdia @ 19 Apr 2023 17:49)
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It's a terrible argument to pretend that China was not involved in international conflict since 1979, then acting like some "messenger of peace"...
First China is involved in terrible internal repression at inequaled scale, on millions people.

Second it was HOPEFULLY not involved at international level because of U.S & Western presence/dominance.
I cannot imagine how brutal, reckless, inhuman, the CCP would act in countries like Africa & Middle east. Without internal voices to stop it.

Spit on US and praise CCP "peace" ? LOL when i see what they did to their own people (it's not really their own btw) ? Don't be naive.
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Apr 19 2023 12:11pm
with brevity, Neptunus statements above are correct - individually and collectively "Ex-Warsaw-Pact-states flocked to the West and ended up doing much better than under Russian influence. Its only natural for Ukraine to have the same aspirations. Nobody who isnt perplexed by Russian media wants to be part of an authoritarian regime that is currently actively jailing the dissidents with arbitrary charges and verdicts. Partly because of democracy, capitalism and the prosperity that ensued."

As outlined in various videos previously provided, when you are a small country beside a larger country, you can, ofc, do whatever you want, but you have to accept that if you do something that the larger country finds threatening, then you should not be surprised if they do something about it. Georgia is a good example of a country that would like to be westwards leaning but accepts its position - beside Russia. They do not believe they can afford to Join Nato etc. etc. Ukraine on the other hand DO believe they can afford to Join Nato, hence, here we are.

Lets not forget the Soloman Islands incident.



Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 19 2023 07:08pm)
It's a terrible argument to pretend that China was not involved in international conflict since 1979, then acting like some "messenger of peace"...
First China is involved in terrible internal repression at inequaled scale, on millions people.

Second it was HOPEFULLY not involved at international level because of U.S & Western presence/dominance.
I cannot imagine how brutal, reckless, inhuman, the CCP would act in countries like Africa & Middle east. Without internal voices to stop it.

Spit on US and praise CCP "peace" ? LOL when i see what they did to their own people (it's not really their own btw) ? Don't be naive.


I think you missed the part where they are funding alot of africa's infrastructure currently, and are playing a critical role in peace in the middle east. you might want to read up on both of these (many examples) events.

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Apr 19 2023 12:12pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 19 2023 08:08pm)
It's a terrible argument to pretend that China was not involved in international conflict since 1979, then acting like some "messenger of peace"...
First China is involved in terrible internal repression at inequaled scale, on millions people.

Second it was HOPEFULLY not involved at international level because of U.S & Western presence/dominance.
I cannot imagine how brutal, reckless, inhuman, the CCP would act in countries like Africa & Middle east. Without internal voices to stop it.

Spit on US and praise CCP "peace" ? LOL when i see what they did to their own people (it's not really their own btw) ? Don't be naive.


:lol: :rofl:

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Apr 19 2023 12:15pm
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What do you means ? Is that just a free personal attack because i'm french ? Yes.
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Apr 19 2023 12:22pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 19 2023 11:08am)
It's a terrible argument to pretend that China was not involved in international conflict since 1979, then acting like some "messenger of peace"...
First China is involved in terrible internal repression at inequaled scale, on millions people.

Second it was HOPEFULLY not involved at international level because of U.S & Western presence/dominance.
I cannot imagine how brutal, reckless, inhuman, the CCP would act in countries like Africa & Middle east. Without internal voices to stop it.

Spit on US and praise CCP "peace" ? LOL when i see what they did to their own people (it's not really their own btw) ? Don't be naive.


China is actively colonizing Africa as we speak - brutality really isn't their thing, the CCP is insidious. They excel at internal repression through nominally non-violent means. They will take the same approach in Africa, instead of brutality they will just completely silence any dissidents.
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Apr 19 2023 12:29pm
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China is actively colonizing Africa as we speak - brutality really isn't their thing, the CCP is insidious. They excel at internal repression through nominally non-violent means. They will take the same approach in Africa, instead of brutality they will just completely silence any dissidents.


It is insidious because they can't do otherwise: The day there's no one to counter balance them or to threat them with sanctions ...
Situation is bright clear when we observe what they do internally.
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Apr 19 2023 12:36pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 19 2023 07:29pm)
It is insidious because they can't do otherwise: The day there's no one to counter balance them or to threat them with sanctions ...
Situation is bright clear when we observe what they do internally.


what do they do internally that the US and Russia have not done ?
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Apr 19 2023 12:50pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 19 2023 08:15pm)
What do you means ? Is that just a free personal attack because i'm french ? Yes.
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Out of your mind?

That's Macron visiting China, very recently, licking Xi's boots lmao

People warned a year ago that Russia would be driven into China's camp and that's happened, it's 100% on topic and 100% political.

That you're mad about it doesn't interest me and certainly won't stop me posting political material in PARD.

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Apr 19 2023 12:53pm
Quote (ferdia @ 19 Apr 2023 20:36)
what do they do internally that the US and Russia have not done ?


You can do free pickup: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_China It's up to very recently, even today.
The same party is in charge since Mao's purges (dozens of millions killed). That's a big point.
You can also do time travel and proceed a loosey equivalent with slavery in US 270 years ago.

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What do you means ? Is that just a free personal attack because i'm french ? Yes.
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Why do you means so, can elaborato per favor, danke?
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