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Aug 23 2018 05:42pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Aug 23 2018 07:41pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbxqGYBnOpk


Didn't waste my time watching.,

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Aug 23 2018 05:43pm
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Oh no. He's not a liar, he's an idiot.


So then you just backpedaled and admitted it did happen (even thought you said it didn't) that is since you won't call Giuliani a liar... lmao. Not a good day for you with the arguments...
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Aug 23 2018 05:44pm
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Didn't waste my time watching.,


you are missing a nice one, believe me :lol:
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So then you just backpedaled and admitted it did happen (even thought you said it didn't) that is since you won't call Giuliani a liar... lmao. Not a good day for you with the arguments...




Did someone tell you you had a sharp logical mind, once upon a time?
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Aug 23 2018 05:51pm
Remember that trump tweet several days ago about 'media collusion' or whatever? Looks like he may be onto something...

https://www.apnews.com/143be3c52d4746af8546ca6772754407/AP:-National-Enquirer's-safe-held-damaging-Trump-stories

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The National Enquirer kept a safe containing documents on hush money payments and other damaging stories it killed as part of its cozy relationship with Donald Trump leading up to the 2016 presidential election, people familiar with the arrangement told The Associated Press.

The detail came as several media outlets reported on Thursday that federal prosecutors had granted immunity to National Enquirer chief David Pecker, potentially laying bare his efforts to protect his longtime friend Trump.


Trump colluding with national enquirer!
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Aug 23 2018 08:50pm
Trump told fox and friends that Cohen "Didn't do big deals, did small deals" and was just a "part time" lawyer

Bahahaha
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Aug 24 2018 06:49am
Oh shit guys. Stop the moves toward impeachment please. If we impeach Trump the markets will crash. There will be so many poor people and you'll see numbers like you've never seen before except in reverse.
I don't even know how you can impeach somebody who's done a great job anyhow. His thinking is holding the markets together.
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Aug 24 2018 09:27am
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Oh shit guys. Stop the moves toward impeachment please. If we impeach Trump the markets will crash. There will be so many poor people and you'll see numbers like you've never seen before except in reverse.
I don't even know how you can impeach somebody who's done a great job anyhow. His thinking is holding the markets together.


it was funny, a day or two ago, Mick Mulvaney was forced to admit Trump inherited a strong economy from Obama (I can find the link if any of the trump cultists don't believe me)
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Aug 24 2018 09:33am
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Oh shit guys. Stop the moves toward impeachment please. If we impeach Trump the markets will crash. There will be so many poor people and you'll see numbers like you've never seen before except in reverse.
I don't even know how you can impeach somebody who's done a great job anyhow. His thinking is holding the markets together.


While trumps fear mongering is silly the talks from the left pundits and congresspeople is equally silly. The "IMPEACH NOOOOOOOW" crowd needs to take a chill pill.

When the right suggested they would fire Mueller or make changes to the investigation it was meddling in the highest degree and basically treason to the left. The investigation still isn't over, drawing up impeachment documents now (as if Paul Ryan wants that to be his last act) would be silly. Let the investigation do it's thing, Trump isn't Hitler preparing an invasion of Denmark, time isn't THAT sensitive. And he's sitting in a spotlight currently anyhow, no matter how many illegal immigration smoke bombs he tosses out.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 24 2018 09:33am
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Aug 24 2018 10:06am
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Not at all. You can't discover things that aren't there. Also, remember Trump can pardon either Manafort or Cohen or both, and they know that.




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So salty lol

And pretty sure he can only pardon for federal crimes, not state?


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He can pardon for anything. he pardoned Joe Arpaio.


Ghot wrong again, per usual:
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Last November, I explained how Mueller’s team seemed to be strategizing a way to outmaneuver Trump’s pardons when they initially brought charges against Manafort. Prosecutors appeared to be holding back some charges for states to bring, just in case Trump pardoned Manafort. Presidential pardons only address federal crimes, which means Manafort could face state charges for the same acts.

Federal double jeopardy law would not be an issue here. The doctrine of dual sovereignty allows the federal and state governments to prosecute the same crimes. The problem is that many states broaden double jeopardy protections to prevent the bringing of state charges after a federal prosecution. I’ve explained in Slate that New York and Pennsylvania have such a rule. It turns out that Virginia and California do, too. But because of some likely combination of prosecutorial skill and luck, Manafort still faces prosecutions in those states, plus perhaps Illinois and others.

Let’s first focus on just the crimes for which Manafort has already been tried. This week, he was convicted of five counts of tax fraud, two counts of bank fraud, and one count of failing to report a foreign bank account. In New York and Virginia, where he held residences, double jeopardy laws prevent him from being charged for the exact same crimes. But state tax fraud is a distinct crime, one which he almost certainly also committed. When one fraudulently hides income from the federal government, one has to hide that same income fraudulently in state tax returns in order to avoid incriminating inconsistencies.

Virginia’s double jeopardy statute bars secondary state prosecutions for committing “the same act” in “violation of both a state and a federal statute.” Filing a state tax return, though, is a separate act from filing a federal return. So filing an unlawful state tax return in Virginia would be separate, prosecutable act from Manafort’s federal filing, one that cannot be pardoned by Trump. The Virginia tax law further covers fraud, and a Virginia return that replicated his federal one would contain the same fraudulent material as his federal return.


https://amp.slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/paul-manafort-will-likely-go-to-jail-if-trump-pardons-him-thanks-to-a-lone-holdout-juror.html

Manafort going to prison for life is a 99.99% possibility (unless he damningly implicates Trump in a crime/conspiracy?)

Poor Ghot.... :/ wrong again... :/
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