Pay attention to , , , comments they have very realpolitik style comments.
On the other end of the so called " Russian " zealot comments you can also find a few " Western " Hawk comments in this thread, you should know who they are by now.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 17 2023 02:45pm

The US reminds me of Athens before the Peloponnesian war, with Sparta +allies being represented by China/Russia/Global south

I don't think we can really predict who will become the new Macedonia, it really depends how this confrontation ends up happening, especially if we end up in a nuclear war. We may also see the creation of new nations or blocs like Africa or the Middle East which might change the international dynamic quite a bit. If they were to become unified in ways similar to the EU for example.

Agreed, and like ive said earlier, the Ukraine war made me even more critical of the Iraq war. I was also pretty young back then when the invasion occurred, so i didnt know a lot about it but i do recall a lot of stuff about it. The issue here is that were talking about geopolitics of greater powers/superpowers, but forget to consider the geopolitics of the smaller players. Ukraine, Finland, Baltics, Georgia, all play their own geopolitical game. But no matter whose security concerns are the most justified from their own perspective, no matter the disputes, territorial inviolability is the only ideal that everyone should be able to agree upon. Not adhering to that is being the bad guy. Be it the US, Russia, China, anything.

This post was edited by Neptunus on Apr 17 2023 03:11pm

If the choice is between having a larger, stronger neighboring state domineer you, but largely let you peacefully live and having an all out war because nationalistic factions with outside help seized control and upset the status quo it's not a hard choice. Most Ukrainians would love to go back in time to 2010 to have their husbands and fathers around instead of dying.

There's a less than subtle difference between those that oppose American foreign policy and our geopolitical hegemony, and those who support American hegemony and denounce the misguided policies that are weakening it.
I've said pretty early on I don't care how many fuckaluckistanis are dying, just whether it serves our national interests. And that we're repeating the Syrian War missteps except far more dangerously.
I get a chuckle when posting anonymously on other sites when I get alternatively mistaken as a bleeding heart bernie tankie and a Russian psyop kremlin run account, guess theres something to be said about horseshoes

Being a radical centrist is just a special edition of the horseshoe.

flipping a country via political means instead of by the end of a barrel of a gun is more palatable to the world, but some countries will not be happy. There are alot of examples relating to the US, China and Russia in this regard. (I name those big 3 noting there are alot of examples from each).

USA: Rigs elections in countries 24/7 (they are good at it)
China: using the carrot to get neutral countries on their side, or the stick with taiwan.
Russia: Communism pre 2000 and rigs elections in countries (they are not good at it, communism failed and they could not keep Ukraine in their sphere).

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 17 2023 02:58pm

Aggressors lie about the wars they wage. Its standard. This meme just selected USA x3 followed by Russia. You would include Afghanistan, Chechnya I and II, Georgia, Syria too, if you (or the meme's author) had any integrity.

I am completely fine and happy if the poster admits this. Because this is honest and not being hypocritical. And if more people admit this, there is even a slight chance to find and negotiate a middle ground.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 17 2023 02:59pm