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Apr 14 2023 07:39am
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John Mearsheimer | EUROPE will SUFFER for DECADES to COME (win or lose)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUan9_m3O1E


Old thinking about Russia and "superpowers"...
IMHO it is not because someone is controversial that he's right... He's not convincing many people.
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Apr 14 2023 07:47am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 14 2023 02:56pm)
You should try to control yourself, loser.

https://i.imgflip.com/1vnopd.jpg


You should control yourself now that everything starts to unravel ;)

Remember this shit?




Update, according to Seymour Hersh the CIA has known about widespread corruption in Ukraine (shocker) for a long time, Zelensky and his entourage have embezzled $400M of the war funds provided by American taxpayers --> https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/trading-with-the-enemy?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1377040&post_id=114123549&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

And:



What a mess SMH
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Apr 14 2023 07:54am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 14 2023 02:39pm)
Old thinking about Russia and "superpowers"...
IMHO it is not because someone is controversial that he's right... He's not convincing many people.


You do realize, I hope, that the "threat" that china poses, to america, is not invasion of america, but rather that china will become a superpower, which would lead to peripheral countries being more compliant or subservient, to china. In this regard I must refute your position that the "thinking" relating to russia, and spheres of influence is "old thinking". M15 wrote several books relating geographical spheres of influence, and no doubt alot of other people wrote similar books, or posted similar videos'. the concept sphere of influence is real/fact (whether you agree or not is irrelevant)

finally when you say he is not convincing anyone, then I refer you to his 2016 video that was been watched 29,000,000+ times on youtube. The george galloway video which I referenced above highlighted that his video's are now being watched by 4 times as many people as watch the BBC's equivalent (question time).

I believe that the reason why most citizens in europe are not "convinced" is because they are the older generation who did not grow up with the internet and therefore it is normal for them to follow the narrative provided, noting the very high credibility of MSM in the past (such as the BBC). There is no alternative narrative for them to listen to on TV. However, As the years go by more and more people are being exposed to news provided by other countries/continents, or just from those people that the main stream media has shunned, online, and this will make them question alot of things and god knows where that is going to lead us politically, in any country.

I do not deny that it would be far better if main stream media spent more time reporting news rather then creating its own news or being fed stories for an agenda but that is no longer a world we live in.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 14 2023 08:07am
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You do realize, I hope, that the "threat" that china poses, to america, is not invasion of america, but rather that china will become a superpower, which would lead to peripheral countries being more compliant or subservient, to china. In this regard I must refute your position that the "thinking" relating to russia, and spheres of influence is "old thinking". M15 wrote several books relating geographical spheres of influence, and no doubt alot of other people wrote similar books, or posted similar videos'. the concept sphere of influence is real/fact (whether you agree or not is irrelevant)

finally when you say he is not convincing anyone, then I refer you to his 2016 video that was been watched 29,000,000+ times on youtube. The george galloway video which I referenced above highlighted that his video's are now being watched by 4 times as many people as watch the BBC's equivalent (question time).

I believe that the reason why most citizens in europe are not "convinced" is because they are the older generation who did not grow up with the internet and therefore it is normal for them to follow the narrative provided, noting the very high credibility of MSM in the past (such as the BBC). There is no alternative narrative for them to listen to on TV. However, As the years go by more and more people are being exposed to news provided by other countries/continents, or just from those people that the main stream media has shunned, online, and this will make them question alot of things and god knows where that is going to lead us politically, in any country.

I do not deny that it would be far better if main stream media spent more time reporting news rather then creating its own news or being fed stories for an agenda but that is no longer a world we live in.


You should know that John Mearsheimer has an old school "realistic" hawkish U.S view: he will find enemies - to the US only - and reasons as threats - to the US only -
No one was expecting Russia to fail that much its offensive. These people don't have magic habilities to predict future, especiallly when i see this (again);
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Coal_and_Steel_Community

And accusing internet stupidity ... There's alot of "pro-russian", divisive, and conspiracy shit on others social medias, it is even clearly over represented.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Apr 14 2023 08:20am
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You should know that John Mearsheimer has an old school "realistic" hawkish U.S view: he will find enemies - to the US only - and reasons as threats - to the US only -
No one was expecting Russia to fail that much its offensive. These people don't have magic habilities to predict future, especiallly when i see this (again);
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Coal_and_Steel_Community

And accusing internet stupidity ... There's alot of "pro-russian", divisive, and conspiracy shit on others social medias, it is even clearly over represented.


John Mearsheimer is american, therefore it is natural for him to specialize on affairs relating to america. He predicted the ukraine war back in 2016, and it was very well laid out what would happen next. This was supported by prior events and subsequent events, i.e. Russia's public statements re: Ukraine in Nato, US coup in Ukraine, Ukraine's public statements re: Nato aspirations and acknowledgement in 2018 that they would be at war with Russia within 4 years.

Your right - no one was expecting Russia to fail that much in its initial or subsequent / continued offensive, but this does not mean that the above views were wrong. Your not wrong - no one has a crystal ball and fate / pre-determination does not exist, however there is such a thing as cause and effect.

I dont understand what you are doing by linking this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Coal_and_Steel_Community as the information there supports my position. i.e. global trade is a deterrent against global war. With the US and the EU decoupling their trade from Russia and China, scrapping international treaties etc. they are removing the safeguards against war. If you disagree with this sentiment explain why.

Finally, I dont understand what you mean by internet stupidity, nowhere was I saying anyone was stupid, I said that older generations that do not rely on the internet for information will typically believe what they hear on the news. If you want to say there are alot of "out there" views on the internet, then I do agree with you, but I would go further and say that the internet gives a far more broad view of events, noting you can view the event from alot of different peoples/cultures view point and make up your own mind on what is fact and what is fantasy.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 14 2023 08:41am
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You do realize, I hope, that the "threat" that china poses, to america, is not invasion of america, but rather that china will become a superpower, which would lead to peripheral countries being more compliant or subservient, to china. In this regard I must refute your position that the "thinking" relating to russia, and spheres of influence is "old thinking". M15 wrote several books relating geographical spheres of influence, and no doubt alot of other people wrote similar books, or posted similar videos'. the concept sphere of influence is real/fact (whether you agree or not is irrelevant)

finally when you say he is not convincing anyone, then I refer you to his 2016 video that was been watched 29,000,000+ times on youtube. The george galloway video which I referenced above highlighted that his video's are now being watched by 4 times as many people as watch the BBC's equivalent (question time).

I believe that the reason why most citizens in europe are not "convinced" is because they are the older generation who did not grow up with the internet and therefore it is normal for them to follow the narrative provided, noting the very high credibility of MSM in the past (such as the BBC). There is no alternative narrative for them to listen to on TV. However, As the years go by more and more people are being exposed to news provided by other countries/continents, or just from those people that the main stream media has shunned, online, and this will make them question alot of things and god knows where that is going to lead us politically, in any country.

I do not deny that it would be far better if main stream media spent more time reporting news rather then creating its own news or being fed stories for an agenda but that is no longer a world we live in.


You watch the new BBC interview on Musk.
That is how far the MSM have screwed up.

He already warn the US in the early 90s about Ukraine.
John Mearsheimer

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 14 2023 08:41am
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Apr 14 2023 08:49am
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You watch the new BBC interview on Musk.
That is how far the MSM have screwed up.

He already warn the US in the early 90s about Ukraine.
John Mearsheimer


You are in a serious distress if you believe what Musk is saying.
You should also listen Putin ... Or Mr Murdoch ... ^_^
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Apr 14 2023 08:51am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 14 2023 03:40pm)
You watch the new BBC interview on Musk.
That is how far the MSM have screwed up.


i didnt watch it. i did watch this just now now. its a metaphor.

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Quote (Meanwhile @ 14 Apr 2023 22:49)
You are in a serious distress if you believe what Musk is saying.
You should also listen Putin ... Or Mr Murdoch ... ^_^


Birds of the feather flock together.

And nobody likes you.
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Apr 14 2023 08:58am
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Birds of the feather flock together.
And nobody likes you.


Oh that's terrible - nobody - :o
Cool story: Did you finally fix your drinking issues or is it still going on ? How about a detoxification cure ?
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