my point of view is:

if its true :

1 : someone did it,and put on web

2 : medias published it

for somthing like this, hard to believe they dont censored this. or denied it, even if it was true.

3 : message can be interpret like an excuse to go out of this conflict .

if its false:

that i m almost sure, the message is to pretend US failed, and lost some control, but in reality they are ready to cooperate hightly with ukrainian for a soon big attak. IMO ofc..

you got an opinion or you just wana put a media link?

Documenty Forged / Painted / Leaked / Professored / Doctored / Fixed / Falsed !!

Poteri Nyet Pizda!

my mind was too niave to considered this. this sub forum has some really dark thoughts haha. ok i understand now.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 13 2023 01:26pm

I agree because I'm drunk lol something-something neonazi orcs both sides

I am 90%+ the leak is fake. There is heavy media cover of it, makes no sense.

The seymour hersh publication was basically never spoken of on mainstream media. Besides that, usually leaks aren´t commented on in such a square "YES its all true" fasion. The Clinton wiki leaks, they just ignored them, as much as possible, and didn't deny or verify a single mail.

But we will know in time, if arrests happen. I just have a hard time believing some of the data, it basically says, "ukraine AD/artillery is fked, and we have no idea how many ukr soldires there are. We also don´t know how many deaths, and relay on data from ukraine military itself (17k deaths LOL) " - i mean common, wtf ? Is the US intelligence AFK? They also use onyx as source and other OSINT. I could be wrong, but i have bigger expectations of US intelligence.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Apr 13 2023 04:01pm

They arrested the guy who allegedly leaked the documents.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/13/pentagon-leaked-documents-suspect-arrested

Then the surprise would be the utter shit state US intelligence is in. I mean read the documents, they literally copy-paste ukranian mod numbers, and their vehicles destroyed is straight up copy-pasted from onyx.

Ukranian formations and sizes are all over the place, and they literally have no idea.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Apr 13 2023 05:54pm

Yeah it is nuts, I've seen some analysis of the documents pointing out what you've said about Ukrainian MOD and Oryx numbers, pretty astonishing if that's what US intel is really relying on. Hard to believe though.

I don't know enough to really analyze them myself, most of the information on them is Greek to me, but I found this guys take on them pretty interesting, he gets into some of what you mentioned regarding the Ukrainian formations. Silly named anonymous twitter account though, so not a great source lol

https://twitter.com/snekotron/status/1644158771155935233

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Apr 13 2023 06:33pm