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Apr 13 2023 11:38am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Apr 13 2023 06:29pm)
I am just providing a counter balance


if I may, and correct me now if my assumption/presumptions are wrong:

The Russian government is against LGBT. A quick wiki throws this up:

In the Russian Federation, lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people face legal and social challenges not experienced by others. Although sexual activity between same-sex couples is legal,[6] homosexuality is disapproved of by most of the population, and same-sex couples and households headed by same-sex couples are ineligible for the legal protections available to opposite-sex couples. Russia provides no anti-discrimination protections for LGBT people and does not have a designation for hate crimes based on sexual orientation and gender identity. Transgender people are allowed to change their legal gender without requiring sex reassignment surgery;[7] however, there are currently no laws prohibiting discrimination based on gender identity or expression, and recent laws could discriminate against transgender residents.

which, to my mind is further supported by Putin (negative) position on LGBT rights, with a variety of articles to support, such as :

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-signs-law-expanding-russias-rules-against-lgbt-propaganda-2022-12-05/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58029133
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/05/europe/russia-lgbtq-propaganda-law-signed-by-putin-intl/index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/there-will-be-dad-mum-putin-rules-out-russia-legalizing-n1136936

However, having said all that, western culture, in particular that of America, is a very attractive import for most countries on the planet, and in this regard those kids could be speaking any languange, and be from any country and be LGBT as they want, and therefore, russians are not Orc's, they are just like that person down the end of the street that has the same hopes and dreams. not sure if this was what you were expecting as a reply from me, but this is exactly why I am opposed to people calling russians Orc's.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 13 2023 11:43am
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Quote (Norlander @ Apr 13 2023 07:00pm)
The leader of a small online gaming chat group where a trove of classified U.S. intelligence documents leaked over the last few months is a 21-year-old member of the intelligence wing of the Massachusetts Air National Guard, according to interviews and documents reviewed by The New York Times.

The national guardsman, whose name is Jack Teixeira, oversaw a private online group named Thug Shaker Central, where about 20 to 30 people, mostly young men and teenagers, came together over a shared love of guns, racist online memes and video games.

Source: The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/13/us/documents-leak-pentagon

https://i.imgur.com/VeacaTJ.jpg


I don't have a NYT account, can't read the article

Scott Ritter gives his opinion on the documents leak, interesting non-MSM source, highly knowledgeable guy. Don't mind the weird title it's mostly about the documents, starting around the 12 minutes mark but the whole vid is interesting)



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Quote (Djunior @ Apr 13 2023 06:38pm)
I don't have a NYT account, can't read the article

Scott Ritter gives his opinion on the documents leak, interesting non-MSM source, highly knowledgeable guy. Don't mind the weird title it's mostly about the documents, starting around the 12 minutes mark but the whole vid is interesting)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F08lmPZ2VEw


alot of these titles are not a credit to their content. its a shame really. i tend not to watch any more from ritter but if its posted in the topic i will watch it
(accept he is anti-ukrainian). I think that presenter had scott ritter interviewed before (which i had watched).

thank you for posting that.

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Quote (ferdia @ Apr 13 2023 02:38pm)
if I may, and correct me now if my assumption/presumptions are wrong:

The Russian government is against LGBT. A quick wiki throws this up:

In the Russian Federation, lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people face legal and social challenges not experienced by others. Although sexual activity between same-sex couples is legal,[6] homosexuality is disapproved of by most of the population, and same-sex couples and households headed by same-sex couples are ineligible for the legal protections available to opposite-sex couples. Russia provides no anti-discrimination protections for LGBT people and does not have a designation for hate crimes based on sexual orientation and gender identity. Transgender people are allowed to change their legal gender without requiring sex reassignment surgery;[7] however, there are currently no laws prohibiting discrimination based on gender identity or expression, and recent laws could discriminate against transgender residents.

which, to my mind is further supported by Putin (negative) position on LGBT rights, with a variety of articles to support, such as :

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-signs-law-expanding-russias-rules-against-lgbt-propaganda-2022-12-05/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58029133
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/05/europe/russia-lgbtq-propaganda-law-signed-by-putin-intl/index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/there-will-be-dad-mum-putin-rules-out-russia-legalizing-n1136936

However, having said all that, western culture, in particular that of America, is a very attractive import for most countries on the planet, and in this regard those kids could be speaking any languange, and be from any country and be LGBT as they want, and therefore, russians are not Orc's, they are just like that person down the end of the street that has the same hopes and dreams.

not sure if this was what you were expecting as a reply from me, but this is exactly why I am opposed to people calling russians Orc's.


No idea lol, I didn't even watch the video I posted I just searched bad russians on YouTube and posted the first thing I found.

Just figured since meanwhile is such a value contributer to the thread I would post in his style :D

I feel like it led to some meaningful discussion.
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Quote (Norlander @ Apr 13 2023 02:36pm)
To common sense


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alot of these titles are not a credit to their content. its a shame really. i tend not to watch any more from ritter but if its posted in the topic i will watch it
(accept he is anti-ukrainian). I think that presenter had scott ritter interviewed before (which i had watched).


Judge Napolitano's channel is a good source IMO, serious debate.

E: LMK what you think after watching it, I know you told me you were anti Scott Ritter before

This post was edited by Djunior on Apr 13 2023 11:46am
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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Apr 13 2023 06:43pm)
No idea lol, I didn't even watch the video I posted.


I think a name change on d2jsp costs something like 1500fg. On that note, i see that USERID: Meantime, is available. this may be something for you to consider ?

Quote (Djunior @ Apr 13 2023 06:44pm)
Judge Napolitano's channel is a good source IMO, serious debate.

E: LMK what you think after watching it, I know you told me you were anti Scott Ritter before


i am not anti scott ritter per-se, i said its not safe to post his video's in this thread as he has been repeatedly vitriolic about ukraine, and people looking to refute him would have an easy time of it. I much prefer quoting or providing links that are harder to refute. if that makes sense.

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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 13 Apr 2023 20:44)
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May the Force be with you

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I think a name change on d2jsp costs something like 1500fg. On that note, i see that USERID: Meantime, is available. this may be something for you to consider ?


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Quote (Djunior @ Apr 13 2023 06:44pm)
Judge Napolitano's channel is a good source IMO, serious debate.

E: LMK what you think after watching it, I know you told me you were anti Scott Ritter before


Fundamentally the entire video is based on a position that the 1:7 kill ratio Russia:Ukraine is true. I do not find this kill ratio credibe.

I believe the US General Milley's statements, and I dont believe they should be laughing about his statement. This is an example of not being serious on the part of the presenter and ritter.

With brevity, the US is NOT doing everything it can, he should have caveated his statements to something like "based on how we have both of our arms tied behind our backs, i do believe we are doing the best we can, with what we are allowed to do, to give ukraine a chance."

There is ample evidence to support that Ukraine has inflicted catastrophic damage to russia mechanised vehicles (tanks) and there are numerous historic examples as well as youtube current video's to support the notion that Javalins have been incredibly successful (Charlie Wilson's war, which i previously linked was a perfect historical example of how cheap weapons can destroy expensive weapons).

It is accepted that the Russians are firing more artillery, and that Ukraine is heamoraging, but this 1:7 ratio just does not make sense. It may exist on one battlefield, its not clear to me what the this ratio refers to, its from the start of the war? its current deaths ? i simply dont know.

I also think that the presenter/scott ritter are very niave to think that the american people will give a damn about whether ukraine wins or not, or whether the US government is lying or not. It is allready accepted by virtually everyone that politicians (and governments) lie/spy/whatever, and more so if they are american. I do not see any evidence to support that the release of this (or further) leak will create a fundamental cultural shift in american politic's. i completely disagree with the analysis presented in this video.

I accept as fact that the CIA will operate as reporters.

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