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Apr 13 2023 07:20am
Quote (Norlander @ Apr 13 2023 03:15pm)
The Prosecutor General's Office initiated an investigation of a video that appeared on social networks, which allegedly depicted the murder of a serviceman of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the department said.

The department said that the Prosecutor General's Office discovered the video "during the monitoring of the Internet network."

“In the frames of the distributed video, an unknown person in the summer season in camouflage uniform uses violence with a knife against an unknown serviceman, as a result of which he causes death. In order to assess the reliability of these materials and make an appropriate decision, they were sent to the investigating authorities to organize an audit,” the Prosecutor General’s Office said.

In the footage, a man lying on the ground is cut off his head. On the eve of the press secretary of the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, said that it is necessary to verify the authenticity of these personnel.

The date and location of the filming of the video is unknown. Presumably, the video was filmed in the warm season. The murdered man is wearing a yellow armband, which is used by the Ukrainian military.

The founder of Wagner PMC, Yevgeny Prigozhin, condemned the execution and said that he had no information that the soldiers of a private military company were on the video. “It’s bad when people’s heads are cut off, but I didn’t find anywhere that this is happening near Bakhmut and fighters of the Wagner PMC are involved in the execution,” the press service reported.

The Ukrainian authorities blamed Russian forces for the execution of the man. Vladimir Zelensky promised to achieve "legal responsibility" for Moscow because of what happened. The head of the office of the President of Ukraine, Andriy Yermak, after the appearance of these personnel, called for Russia to be excluded from the UN Security Council.

In November, footage allegedly depicting the execution of Russian servicemen by the Armed Forces of Ukraine caused a scandal. On them, people in military uniforms similar to Russian ones leave the house one by one and lie down on the ground, soon shots are fired. The second video, taken from a quadcopter, shows 12 bodies. The Ministry of Defense called the incident a massacre of prisoners and a violation of international conventions.


Yeah this is making headlines, MSM are not waiting for any investigation, they've already made up their minds (as per usual).
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Apr 13 2023 07:21am
Quote (ferdia @ 13 Apr 2023 14:55)
my point here is : when ^meanwhile points to China, or Saddam, and (correct me now as you like meanwhile) says that they are evil, my challenge is that yes they do evil things, but just because bad people do alot of evil things does not mean that they do not also do a few good things, and good people do alot of good things but that does not mean that they will not sometimes do bad things.


There's not much streets named Hitler or Pol Pot anyway, and those named Mao or Staline are because of the respective authoritarian government propaganda.
People can play it like they want but some historical figures did/ordered so big and horrible crimes that even the few "good" things they did (if there's any) will not suffice.

And since we have all tones of greys: those who's crimes are not well known by the public or who did a pretty decent amount of "good" things will have streets with their names even if it's not appropriate.
Better not losing time with this and talking about something else.
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Apr 13 2023 07:53am
some news around the world:

England: Zelenskiy urges world leaders to act over PoW beheading video
USA: World Bank announces $200 million for Ukraine repairs
Australia: Russian fighter jet tried to shoot down RAF RC-135 Rivet Joint plane last year but malfunction forced missile to miss, leaked documents reveal
Israel: Intel leak: US believes Israel can be pressured to supply ‘lethal’ arms to Ukraine also: Former national security adviser Yaakov Amidror said Thursday that war with Iran is increasingly likely and Israel needs to gear up to attack without US assistance.
China: China, Russia, Pakistan, Iran FMs hold talks on Afghan issue
Singapore: In India, analysts are arguing that the more leverage China gets with Russia, the trickier it will become for the South Asian nation.
Al Jazeera (Quatar) (Image)



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And since we have all tones of greys: those who's crimes are not well known by the public or who did a pretty decent amount of "good" things will have streets with their names even if it's not appropriate.
Better not losing time with this and talking about something else.


agree with that.

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Apr 13 2023 11:00am
The leader of a small online gaming chat group where a trove of classified U.S. intelligence documents leaked over the last few months is a 21-year-old member of the intelligence wing of the Massachusetts Air National Guard, according to interviews and documents reviewed by The New York Times.

The national guardsman, whose name is Jack Teixeira, oversaw a private online group named Thug Shaker Central, where about 20 to 30 people, mostly young men and teenagers, came together over a shared love of guns, racist online memes and video games.

Source: The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/13/us/documents-leak-pentagon



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Apr 13 2023 11:03am
Quote (ferdia @ Apr 13 2023 10:06am)
Honestly now, meanwhile is a good counter balance in the thread. I accept alot of people do not get on well with him and he drives you all demented but you actually need two sides in an argument in order to have a proper discussion. Therefore I will ever try to support or even encourage him at times. I know this sounds mental, especially when noting his views on me, but if you take a step back and look at it in the wider context, we should ever be challenging our assumptions and positions, and its only fair that if we challenge his, that he should be afforded the opportunity to challenge as well and not be drowned out.


Lol....the counter balance to people who read and can speak English is someone who can't do either :rofl:
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Apr 13 2023 11:22am
this is a video of bad russians doing bad things ukraine is better because they are not anti all hate fanatics ooo hello beep beep beep



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hopefully this stirs some interesting discussion

Thoughts,
Ferdia


This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Apr 13 2023 11:24am
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Apr 13 2023 11:26am
Linguistically challenged then, thrice
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Apr 13 2023 11:27am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Apr 13 2023 06:22pm)
this is a video of bad russians doing bad things ukraine is better because they are not anti all hate fanatics ooo hello beep beep beep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iugypVGa9Y

hopefully this stirs some interesting discussion

Thoughts, ^Ferdia


I am not sure what I am being asked, I did not understand what they were saying or what country they are from but if you are saying they are from russia and are asking me to comment, i will.

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Apr 13 2023 11:29am
Quote (ferdia @ Apr 13 2023 02:27pm)
I am not sure what I am being asked, I did not understand what they were saying or what country they are from but if you are saying they are from russia and are asking me to comment, i will.


I am just providing a counter balance
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Apr 13 2023 11:36am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 13 Apr 2023 20:29)
I am just providing a counter balance


To common sense
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