https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-738940

The people of Kiev are bravely voted to rename one of their streets to honor the Waffen-SS official Volodymyr Kubiyovych, who was involved in organizing the Ukrainian side of the Holocaust and the genocide of Poles and Jews
The people voted for it, and city council voted for it, but after the Israeli ambassador spoke up the mayor intervened and said he would stop the Nazi from being honored

just the ol casual "Ukrainians publicly supporting Nazis and making it very clear they are affiliated with Nazis, but then turning around and trying to pretend they aren't when it plays bad with their western allies"

It should not be news to anyone that Ukraine is Ultra Nationalist. This, like the recent leak, is not a secret ( unless the masses have collective amnesia, and all this comes as news to them ).

I think there was a similar conversation last year about a Nazi being applauded in Ukraine. A Mayor or something ? cant remember. Ukraine is currently in a war and that to my mind will simply reinforce nationalist sentiment.

As I read more about this leak, it looks like a story that just keeps on giving. I dont expect any real blowback though, similar to the facts outlined above. Its not going to change any foreign policy in and of itself.

This is a standford university paper, I linked it last year: https://news.stanford.edu/2019/12/09/war-perceived-just-many-americans-excuse-war-criminals/ this ideology of "only our enemy commits war crimes" (and we saw recent stories re: beheadings, torture etc) is prevalent in times of war. Its irrelevant/inconvenient/no one cares if "the goodies" do it.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 13 2023 05:27am

So what, you have streets or monuments named MAO, BUSH, or Staline...

Oh wait, seems you are misssing something:
Volodymyr Kubiowych taught at the University of Krakow between 1928 and 1939. In 1940 he became a professor at the Ukrainian Free University in Prague. During World War II he led the Ukrainian Central Committee in Kraków and in 1943 participated in the formation of the Galicia Division of the Waffen-SS. In 1945 he first emigrated to Germany, where he was arrested for collaboration with the German occupation authorities, from which he was later fully acquitted and released.


; "Waffen-SS official" Volodymyr Kubiyovych seems a bit heavy... You better talk about the recent beheading of Ukrainian POW with a knife.... But you will fucking not.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Apr 13 2023 05:29am

Agree with Meanwhile here. remember I dont mind if meanwhile flames me, if he says something relevant and correct, I will agree. Isreal is sitting on the fence and stories like this are not just plucked out of thin air.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 13 2023 05:30am

Do you know Saddam Hussein Killed his wife?

what is the relevance ?

He went to peep on his wife while she was bathing.
When he saw her, he shouted BUSH ! BUSH ! and shot her full of holes.

Just a joke..

dont give up the day job! afaik he had 3-4 wives and he did not kill any of them. he was by some accounts a family man (accepted an awful dictator who committed many horrible crimes)

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 13 2023 05:34am

Did you get my stupid joke ?
Anyways I am re reading the first chapter of Graham Allison's Destined For War Published in 2017.
My fingers are itchy to make a topic . I know you made one Why America is China's enemy.

Re Reading the first chapter , i am like holy cow, it's like all the predictions are coming true since the book was published.

Thucydides Trap

hamster is referring here to a train of thought which goes as follows: When a rising power threatens to displace a ruling one, the most likely outcome is war. Twelve of 16 cases in which this occurred in the past 500 years ended violently.

Not sure where Russia falls into this catagory, I just dont understand the rationale of pushing Russia over to China.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 13 2023 05:42am