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Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 12 2023 02:20pm)
Sure, and now following your 80 years old you are claiming both are the same today ? Horribly SICK.


WHERE do you see me claiming they are both the same today ? you are creating a narrative based on your view, and interpreting my words in a manner which is contrary to the content I provided.

What I am saying is, China of yesterday was no better or worse then the English empire, and people can debate which was worse, and furthermore, Human rights abuses are not monopolized by any one country today. If you say "Yes but China is the worst" then my counter argument is "I would rather be of a nation that is not on that list" or "don't throw stones in glass houses".

here look at this : https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/human_rights_rule_law_index/ and take from that what you will. There are maybe 20-30 countries that are ok. the rest are s*** holes sorry.

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WHERE do you see me claiming they are both the same today ? you are creating a narrative based on your view, and interpreting my words in a manner which is contrary to the content I provided.

What I am saying is, China of yesterday was no better or worse then the English empire, and people can debate which was worse, and furthermore, Human rights abuses are not monopolized by any one country today. If you say "Yes but China is the worst" then my counter argument is "I would rather be of a nation that is not on that list" or "don't throw stones in glass houses".


Look mate he doesn't throw stones in a glass house.
Basements do not have glass, they probably have air vents.


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do you mind lol. for the love of god! how do i unwatch that.

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WHERE do you see me claiming they are both the same today ? you are creating a narrative based on your view, and interpreting my words in a manner which is contrary to the content I provided.

What I am saying is, China of yesterday was no better or worse then the English empire, and people can debate which was worse, and furthermore, Human rights abuses are not monopolized by any one country today. If you say "Yes but China is the worst" then my counter argument is "I would rather be of a nation that is not on that list" or "don't throw stones in glass houses".


lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices





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did you study that link ? I am very flattered. thank you for accepting my point and for supporting my above statements and my country.

i.e.

I live in the only country on that list that is free, free, good situation, full democracy.
and
everyone else can do better.

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With brevity, there are 1.7M people in prison in China according to one source and there are about 1.6M people in prison in the United States. The United States has a population of 0.331B. China has a population of 1.4B.

If you cared to look at the comparisons you would question why there are not 4 times as many people in prison in China.

I am not here to applaud China's human rights, nor am I here to condemn US human rights.

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Will try to go back on topic now:

In the last 10 years the prison population in Ukraine has shrunk by 66%. Discuss.



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did you study that link ? I am very flattered. thank you for accepting my point and for supporting my above statements and my country.

i.e.

I live in the only country on that list that is free, free, good situation, full democracy.
and
everyone else can do better.


Yo moment wait

Didnt you guys vote as long as it took you said yes to EU?😅

But atleast you guys were asked, not like us -.-'

Talking about democracy. The folks decide.

=> were not living in a democracy, sorry

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Yo moment wait

Didnt you guys vote as long as it took you said yes to EU?😅

But atleast you guys were asked, not like us -.-'

Talking about democracy. The folks decide.

=> were not living in a democracy, sorry


Germany right ? (else correct me)

free, mostly free, satisfactory situation, full democracy

The "mostly free" relates to Economic Freedom Index. I dont even know what that means so I popped over to this site:

https://www.heritage.org/index/country/germany And the TLDR (In my opinion) is that a certain great powers insistence on sanctioning China is one of the root causes of Germany's current woe's due to Germany being overexposed to the effect of de-globalization, as was mentioned the other day by me and described in a previously posted video some weeks ago. Dont blame your government, Dont vote for some ultra nationalist alternative (as is likely to occur in Ireland in a couple of years unfortunately), your government is adapting but it will take them a few years to change their model of business. Germans are practical, they will do it.

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Germany right ? (else correct me)

free, mostly free, satisfactory situation, full democracy

The "mostly free" relates to Economic Freedom Index. I dont even know what that means so I popped over to this site:

https://www.heritage.org/index/country/germany And the TLDR (In my opinion) is that a certain great powers insistence on sanctioning China is one of the root causes of Germany's current woe's due to Germany being overexposed to the effect of de-globalization, as was mentioned the other day by me and described in a previously posted video some weeks ago. Dont blame your government, Dont vote for some ultra nationalist alternative (as is likely to occur in Ireland in a couple of years unfortunately), your government is adapting but it will take them a few years to change their model of business. Germans are practical, they will do it.


bro there is no vote. sorry to destroy your illusion of a funtioning democraty, it isnt. we peoples arent asked anything. we werent asked about EU, were not asked about joining wars like afghanistan/syria, were not asked about supporting ukraine or not.
government just decides. and those decisions are not made by our own politicians, theyre made by global capitalists. WEF for example.

Were NOT a democracy.


Now i ask you: If a government makes decisions without asking people, telling folks what they have to do and what not, trying to add "special rules" to our human rights without asking their people

how is such a system called? say it loud please ty
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bro there is no vote. sorry to destroy your illusion of a funtioning democraty, it isnt. we peoples arent asked anything. we werent asked about EU, were not asked about joining wars like afghanistan/syria, were not asked about supporting ukraine or not.
government just decides. and those decisions are not made by our own politicians, theyre made by global capitalists. WEF for example.

Were NOT a democracy.


Now i ask you: If a government makes decisions without asking people, telling folks what they have to do and what not, trying to add "special rules" to our human rights without asking their people

how is such a system called? say it loud please ty


correct me if I say anything wrong here, I do not pay too much attention to german politic's other then what is broadly reported.

All governments make decisions, every day, without putting it to a public vote. If a government had to ask the public every time they wanted to do something nothing would get done. If you are in germany, I would say that a proportion of the german people elected the people that are now in government, making decisions for all of germany.

If you look at England, and the Brexit Vote, you will see the dangers of putting serious questions to the people who, having been lied to for years, voted in a way detrimental to their way of life and prosperity.

In you look at Ireland, some years ago a politician (later leader of government) brought in a law banning cigarettes in the work place. I was of 2 minds about this at the time. On the one hand I agreed with you: how could they do something that effects so many people, without asking them, and, critically, what will they do next. On the other hand I was of the view that the law in and of itself, was a positive step to change Irish culture. History has broadly shown that that politician did not fall down the rabbit hole and let power consume him (but he does not want Ireland to be Neutral anymore, a fact I am strongly opposed to, for the reasons you outlined).

Please dont take my response as a personal attack. I am merely providing a viewpoint, which you do not have to agree with. If you look at the recent statements made by Macron about China, perhaps this will be a step mirrored by Germany in the years to come, or at the very least it may cause Germany to pause before continuing to do things that are not beneficial to the German people's interests.

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Polish media claims France is blocking EU decision on financing ammunition supplies to Ukraine

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/polish-media-claims-france-blocking-082607662.html

If true this is a big shift.
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