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Mar 23 2022 11:03am
NATO will not proceed soon or later, except if an agression occurs against a NATO member, on its sovereign territory, not if a "lost" missile crashes in a pond.

On the other hand fights can occur on Ukraine in between "peacekeepers" & russians, increasing the tensions.

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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 23 2022 08:59am)
I'm trying to find the page in my history book where FDR locked up all the Republicans during WW2
Maybe this is a weird European thing, but normally "wartime president" =/= "repressive dictatorship"


...uhhh, he locked up all the Japs.

If there were pro-Japanese parties in Congress, maybe they'd have been locked up too?

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Quote (Tommyvv @ Mar 23 2022 05:53am)
If you ban opposition political parties, you are a dictator.

Current goverment of Ukraine is a result of a 2014 coup, against pro-Russia goverment, supported bye lebensraum greed anti communist ''the west''.

Not even taking about this 2party miljardair democratic system in the USA, that resulted to Biden


But this is democratie at its finest.
Take you Pfizer 2.9%deathrate vaccine from same goverment to eurn your freedom


Not arguing that. But using the argument that "Zelensky is a dictator" as an excuse for the Russian invasion, when Russia is also led by a dictator, just doesn't fly with me.

No, the previous government was the result of a coup. THIS government was elected in 2019.
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Not arguing that. But using the argument that "Zelensky is a dictator" as an excuse for the Russian invasion, when Russia is also led by a dictator, just doesn't fly with me.

No, the previous government was the result of a coup. THIS government was elected in 2019.


im confused how a coup of a dictator that led to a democratically elected govt has been framed as a dictatorship because of a temporary order that largely targets a guy who literally made Putin the godfather of his daughter. not by the qanon type dumbies on the internet, that makes sense they're dumb and will digest anything that sniffs of "west = bad", but how its been picked up by mainstream right winged media and expounded on. this seems like the biggest nonstory we've seen in all of this conflict.
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Quote (Santara @ 23 Mar 2022 17:10)
...uhhh, he locked up all the Japs.

If there were pro-Japanese parties in Congress, maybe they'd have been locked up too?


Goomshill didnt read George Takei's book

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Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 23 2022 12:17pm)
im confused how a coup of a dictator that led to a democratically elected govt has been framed as a dictatorship because of a temporary order that largely targets a guy who literally made Putin the godfather of his daughter. not by the qanon type dumbies on the internet, that makes sense they're dumb and will digest anything that sniffs of "west = bad", but how its been picked up by mainstream right winged media and expounded on. this seems like the biggest nonstory we've seen in all of this conflict.


There are many, and they all seem to originate from the Kremlin.

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Russian climate envoy Anatoly Chubais has stepped down and left the country, citing his opposition to President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the situation, becoming the highest-level official to break with the Kremlin over the invasion.

Chubais, 66, is one of the few 1990s-era economic reformers who’d remained in Putin’s government and had maintained close ties with Western officials.

Inb4 somebody dies from a “tragic accident.”
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https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/putin-says-russia-will-start-selling-gas-unfriendly-countries-roubles-2022-03-23/

Side note, we can see the countries Russia considered "unfriendly" : "The list of countries includes the United States, European Union member states, Britain, Japan, Canada, Norway, Singapore, South Korea, Switzerland and Ukraine."
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Zelenskyy and Putin are working together against the Ukraine and Russian people.
Change my mind.
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