Since you are posting in Russia/Ukraine topic - does your statement mean you do not recognize the sovereignty of Ukraine where a foreign sponsored coup d’etat has overthrown a democratically elected government?

His reasoning for will of the people is this

" I cannot recognize a full sovereignty for countries where government is not representing the will of the people. And the will of the people must fit my political agenda. If it doesn't, it is not the will of the people. "

No. 1 Shit poster on Pard for the past 15 years.

Even Palasan / Lvivz has more integrity than him.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 12 2023 05:25am

Countries rarely follow "the will of the people", this is such a stupid statement.

They do however do what is the perceived action that will benefit the people (and in many cases it is miscalculated/incorrect)



By his logic, US/Australia/UK/France/Poland also aren´t sovereign countries. I can promise you, french bombing of Libya isn´t a very popular topic in france.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Apr 12 2023 05:25am

By his logic, we have to create a coalition of willing and invade USA from the clutches of the Democrats.

Actually, looking back the iraqi war isn´t something every day americans look fondly at. That means, US wasn´t sovereign during bush administration.

The destruction of Libya is another example, so the US wasn´t sovereign during Obama either.

was a solid kid. It’s a shame he got drafted into the military and we never heard from him.

Hope he is alive.

I'm talking about the legitimacy of the political & constitutional systems. Citizen control & oppression are factors too.
I Specified it already but seems i need to repeat; it is not a binary value: More or less.

So take Syria: nope, whatever you like it or not.

Oleg will be forever in our hearts

Binary when you want, nonbinary when you don´t. Like i said, you are a selective hypocrite. When Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction, it wasn´t "citizen control".

US isn´t a sovereign country by your logic:
"In June a CBS poll found 59% of the country believed it should not be involved in the conflict,[74] while a Rasmussen Reports poll found only 26% believed the U.S. should continue military operations.[75]

This post was edited by ownyaah on Apr 12 2023 05:41am

Always said it was NOT a binary factor:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=644396053
"more or less"

And for the reader endowed with understanding I suppose that one could begin to evaluate the sovereignty of a country by 2 large primary sets: 1 / interior (representation system and "respect" of the people) 2 / exterior (cohesion of the military forces and representatives).