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hahah end of western powa.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ 10 Apr 2023 03:26)
Latest from Macron during his China visit. Not sure if some of it’s chopped and taken out of context but it’s a reasonable concern for France and rest of Europe considering how much of a conundrum Ukraine is.

MACRON: “The paradox would be that, overcome with panic, we believe we are just America’s followers... The question Europeans need to answer … is it in our interest to accelerate [a crisis] on Taiwan? No...

If the tensions between the two superpowers heat up… we won’t have the time nor the resources to finance our strategic autonomy and we will become vassals."

“The great risk" Europe faces is that it “gets caught up in crises that are not ours, which prevents it from building its strategic autonomy."

Per Politico, he also suggested Europe should reduce its dependence on the “extraterritoriality of the U.S. dollar."


Xi just bought 160 airbus from him.
And they are going to potentially have some naval exchange around New Caledonia and French Polynesian. :lol:
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Xi just bought 160 airbus from him.
And they are going to potentially have some naval exchange around New Caledonia and French Polynesian. :lol:


I genuinely think Macron is one of the savvier statesmen in the world, at least those coming from the west. He was one of the only voices early during the Ukraine invasion that had more of a middle of the road take on this and actually tried very hard to engage Putin/Russia to find some middle ground. It's difficult to say to what extent was he genuine about actually brokering peace or was it just a smokescreen to allow the west to prepare the hundreds of billions of weapons/training to flow into Ukraine as a delay tactic. I think he's doing the right thing with the pension reform in France even though its a deeply unpopular thing.

It's really hard to know for sure if he's genuine in some of the things he said in China or he's just saying things that the Chinese want to hear. I think the concerns he echoed are genuine, what I question is whether he's genuine about being impartial or Europe has already decided to be camp US, regardless of how damaging it is to Europe.

One things for sure though, Europe is a net loser as a result of the Ukraine war, only an idiot would deny this. Europe will be a net loser once again if they decide to take the US side in the China-Taiwan question. What does the collective EU have to gain from being pro US hegemony via Taiwan in east Asia? From where i'm standing they have way more to lose if they take an antagonistic tone with China over the medium-long term.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 9 2023 02:50pm
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American German relations be like
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Apr 9 2023 11:11pm
Oleksandr Merezhko, head of the committee of the Rada of Ukraine, said that China has no rights to Taiwan

China's claims to Taiwan are a delusion, Beijing has no legal rights to the island, Oleksandr Merezhko, head of the International Affairs Committee of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, said.

He talked about China's lack of rights to Taiwan and called the claims a "communist delusion". According to the politician, it is based "on denial, a deeply discredited and dead political program."

"China has no legitimate claim to Taiwan," he outlined.

Source: RIA
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Quote (Djunior @ 24 Feb 2022 09:44am)
Let's just forget they've prepared for this for 2 decades, have completely overhauled and modernized their military and just see where this will go. Great idea dude, Russia will win this war in 2-3 months, mark my words.

Quote (Djunior @ 20 Jan 2023 19:57)
Ukraine is going to get rekt, there can be no other outcome. Ukraine is buying time right now cuz emotional dumb shits are pumping the country full of weapons that will only delay the inevitable.

Quote (Djunior @ 5 Feb 2023 20:02)
The Ukrainian army is stretched to the limit while the Russian army is still building up (reports of "silent ongoing mobilization"). The advantage that Ukraine had before is nullified, the mix of newly announced Western weapons cannot change the inevitable (mix of various platforms is problematic and will take months to arrive anyways).




https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-un-lost-elections-95b7078b7e0b86ea1d2cc17726a6db3b
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