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Apr 7 2023 05:26am
In this false mirror, even the defenders of pedophiles become saints



This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 7 2023 05:31am
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Apr 7 2023 06:38am
Quote (Malopox @ Apr 7 2023 02:10am)
I have it a bit easier in my line of work. I deal with physical commodities which have historically been directly linked to geopolitics. Majority of people I meet speak Russian/English/French/Chinese/Dutch/Spanish/Arabic (often a combination of 3-4 of those). Some have spent years in Russia in local trading offices etc and are acutely aware how the pie is made.

Overall I see a tectonic split in my line of work between reality (within allowed sanctions regime) and public messages in the media which seem to be bordering on religion and fanatism. As a bank you are the most exposed so usually you can’t take any chances even if allowed by the regulations. Clients are actually complaining they are pushed by the OFAC to continue buying Russian commodities to ensure security of supply. I see European banks losing out the most as Americans are reassured by OFAC, Asians/ME banks not giving too much of a shit, but EU ones are under constant pressure by the ESG brigade.

https://www.ctrmcenter.com/news/trafigura-vitol-might-step-up-trade-in-russian-oil-ceos/

As a result I see that crude trading offices have largely moved to Dubai and stuff is sold to India/Africa/China settled in gold/dirham/rupee. Oil products are still allowed to be lifted and encouraged to keep flowing by the Americans. EU have allowed blending explicitly so russian origin is still flowing, albeit for “statistics” it doesn’t show up as “Russian”. There is an industry wide joke about Latvian and Malaysian blends.

Metals are too important for energy transition efforts to be sanctioned (Russian origin copper/nickel/alu represent 25%+ of LME onwarrant material. We see stuff coming offwarrant which has been produced after feb 2022 which always causes a long discussion with banks). Sanctioning metals will probably collapse hedging/trade in metals and will cause another inflation spiral.

Agri has not been sanctioned by the west and Russians are actually regaining control by kicking ABCDs out (except COFCO lol cuz they are bros).

I see that environmental concerns have been thrown under the bus as shipping routes have on average doubled or tripled in time which burns more fuel oil and many of those ships are old which will mean an increase in incidents. Every rusty bucket that is able to float is being chartered to carry stuff to those desperate enough to buy.


Yeah commodities is a really interesting space. We probably both agree that Russia is an extremely important supplier and there's a real disconnect today with people understanding this and wanting to accept it.

I genuinely think that European industry, particularly German industry will see significant de-industrialization. It makes sense to make widgets and have jobs in central Europe when you can source cheap energy, it doesn't make that much sense when your costs systemically have gone up and will stay up because now you have to source energy from much farther.

From your line of work, do you think western companies are eager to go back to how things were, meaning continuing heavy Russian commodity imports or is there a mood that things are never going back?
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Apr 7 2023 07:33am
Quote (Ironfister @ 7 Apr 2023 13:10)
USSR was evil, Russia was evil since Putin took power.
There were only about 8 truly peaceful years: 1991-1999.
If Ukraine were part of NATO, Russia would not invade them.


Wrong topic dude, you are here in the cucks anti-us topic founded by ferdia, where it's always good to watch back in time somewhere else OR to praise Russia to continue its crimes in order to not disturb the economeh.
In anway this is not the place to talk about the status of the war or to blame Putin & Russians for being responsible of their own shit.
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Apr 7 2023 07:35am
Turns out that a country that sells wheat and oil is better positioned for geopolitical turmoil than a country that sells credit default swaps
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Apr 7 2023 08:19am
Quote (Norlander @ 7 Apr 2023 13:26)
In this false mirror, even the defenders of pedophiles become saints

https://i.imgur.com/XgmVz3U.jpg


Its up to Vatican and church officials to declare somebody saint.
Its not your decision, and not mine.
Of course the church has many enemies and they will throw false accusations on priests.
The communists wanted to get rid of the church, so it makes sense to flood priests with fake accusations.
Some of the accusations could be true, but there is a rule: "Innocent until proven guilty".
Do you really expect the bishop to kick the priest if a communist russian-led government, who was well known for murdering people in opposition to them, put some probably fake accusations on the priest?
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Apr 7 2023 08:58am
Quote (Malopox @ 7 Apr 2023 13:19)


Chechen wars were halal?


2nd Chechen war started in August 1999. So one could say it doesnt belong in these 8 years.
Of course these weren't perfect 8 years, but one could argue that the things were going more or less in the right direction.
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Apr 7 2023 09:28am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 7 Apr 2023 15:33)
Wrong topic dude, you are here in the cucks anti-us topic founded by ferdia, where it's always good to watch back in time somewhere else OR to praise Russia to continue its crimes in order to not disturb the economeh.
In anway this is not the place to talk about the status of the war or to blame Putin & Russians for being responsible of their own shit.


I know there are some Putin friends in here but I'm not scared of them.
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Apr 7 2023 09:48am
Quote (Ironfister @ 7 Apr 2023 15:58)
2nd Chechen war started in August 1999. So one could say it doesnt belong in these 8 years.
Of course these weren't perfect 8 years, but one could argue that the things were going more or less in the right direction.


Well here lies the problem. 1991-1999 Russia was hell on Earth for an overwhelming majority of 150M people that inhabited it. Lawless, extreme poverty, drug abuse and prostitution were rampant. Elections were sham. The likes of Bald and Bankrupt and Matt Taibbi (have you read The Exile!? Great stuff) descending on your country to score “easy” women. I’ve found this that video summarizes it quite well.



Along came Putin that stabilized the situation somehow. Set rules/ institutionalized corruption so business could strive, revamped army and “solved” Chechen conflict. The problem was that the collective West didn’t really take him seriously and mocked him while there was a chance to make things “right”. I truly believe a big chance to do that was missed in 2006-2007 somewhere around first Yukos trials. He is a sore loser and an ex-KGB so he is no stranger to multistep revenge planning and paranoidal control. And here we are today. If you ask an average Russian if they want to go back to the 90s, you will be hard pressed to find any volunteers.

This post was edited by Malopox on Apr 7 2023 09:49am
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Quote (Malopox @ 7 Apr 2023 23:48)
Well here lies the problem. 1991-1999 Russia was hell on Earth for an overwhelming majority of 150M people that inhabited it. Lawless, extreme poverty, drug abuse and prostitution were rampant. Elections were sham. The likes of Bald and Bankrupt and Matt Taibbi (have you read The Exile!? Great stuff) descending on your country to score “easy” women. I’ve found this that video summarizes it quite well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXOdFMCXXQc

Along came Putin that stabilized the situation somehow. Set rules/ institutionalized corruption so business could strive, revamped army and “solved” Chechen conflict. The problem was that the collective West didn’t really take him seriously and mocked him while there was a chance to make things “right”. I truly believe a big chance to do that was missed in 2006-2007 somewhere around first Yukos trials. He is a sore loser and an ex-KGB so he is no stranger to multistep revenge planning and paranoidal control. And here we are today. If you ask an average Russian if they want to go back to the 90s, you will be hard pressed to find any volunteers.


There is some similarities that happened in China as well but the scale was much lower and it was better managed.
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