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Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 6 2023 05:36pm)
I mean it's at least in part half the reason why I hold the position I hold. There is a concentrated effort in the west by the powers that be to mold a persons opinion on this matter. I'm sure it's very similar in China or Russia so don't think they are any better, probably even worse, but here there is something extremely illiberal about shutting down conversation and labeling someone pro-Russian for bringing up any point that's against the neocon hive mind. I just generally chafe when power tries to tell me what to think and tries to somehow overrule my own thought process to deduce how the world works. I'm sure the "pro-Russian" opinions in that conference where something like, hey we're paying way more for energy thoughts on that? Or, hey we're using way more coal and our 'green' policies are out the window in response to try to get off Russian energy thoughts on that? Or the simple fact that sending billions of weapons has not brought us any closer to the end of this war rather, it's raging on harder than before, thoughts on that? Or the fact these bankers see their relationships cutting back on capex/jobs/investments having to factor in much higher input costs from energy.

For example what is unreasonable about this take from the link?



These people were just speaking their mind, most very advanced in their careers and I'm sure very intelligent. Literally nothing positive has come out of this war, but stating this or being critical of the wrong side lends you in purgatory a lot of the time. Personally I don't really talk politics at work because I work for a large international bank which champions these current thing ideals. I have a family and ultimately holding down that job is more important than pissing in the wind.


Not sure if you would know this sort of thing or not but would a companies ESG rating be affected if it or one of its executives espoused a view on the Ukraine/Russia conflict that goes against the current narrative? Or if it refused to pull out of business dealings in Russia?
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Orcs at work:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-stealing-art-ukraine-nazi-level-world-war-2-rcna77879



=> Sanctions don’t go away til the Art comes back
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Apr 6 2023 03:09pm
If NBCnews Saïd it , it true ofc.. xD
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Quote (Pisior @ 6 Apr 2023 23:09)
If NBCnews Saïd it , it true ofc.. xD


It's well know anyway, they steal everything they can, it's like locusts.
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Apr 6 2023 03:13pm
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It's well know anyway, they steal everything they can, it's like locusts.


Perfect time to give back Egyptian relics
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It's well know anyway, they steal everything they can, it's like locusts.


Yep and what about egyptian items on all museum around the World? Ect ect..
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Quote (Norlander @ Apr 6 2023 11:13pm)
Perfect time to give back Egyptian relics


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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Apr 6 2023 04:55pm)
Not sure if you would know this sort of thing or not but would a companies ESG rating be affected if it or one of its executives espoused a view on the Ukraine/Russia conflict that goes against the current narrative? Or if it refused to pull out of business dealings in Russia?


Hard to say, depends on the company, size, type of product/service they sell, etc.

I remember when the war started there was massive pressure on corporations to leave. For example, Unilever was getting raked because they didn't immediately leave, because you know selling bars of soap to regular Russians is killing Ukrainians. Most eventually gave in, having to write down hundreds of millions in assets.

Don't really think it's the ESG scores but rather most of these corporations are extremely risk averse and will cut and run for the hills at any sign of sanctions or bad PR.

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