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most of important information have 24hour delay or more to be show. information need to be sure 100%, and ofc information must be worked " how we gonna present this to people?? hummm"
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Apr 5 2023 12:29pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 5 Apr 2023 20:52)
^Nolander

Is Bakhmut going to fall soon ?


"In case of a threat of encirclement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Bakhmut, the right decisions will be made, - Zelensky at a press conference in Poland."

I'd say Ukrainians are going to cut the "jaws" of encirclement with their counter-offensive. Not sure if the moment is already lost.

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Quote (fender @ Apr 5 2023 05:06pm)
says the 2020 kremlin bot who claimed that NATO would set up military bases 200 km away from russia (which is well within russian territory, lol), who doesn't know that ukraine wasn't even in NATO, and who constantly tries to blame anyone for the war but the one guy who started it, lol.

your dumb mental gymnastics can't hide the simple fact that there would be no war if russia hadn't attacked.


Ist das alles was du zu bieten hast? :banana:
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Quote (Bananii @ Apr 5 2023 10:59am)
And btw, im not justifiing this war, im am just not justifiing the nato expansion. Got it? You trolls can repeat it as much you want, to anyone you want, it wont become more true.
2 different pair of shoes.


Do you think nato should not exist?
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Quote (Bananii @ 5 Apr 2023 23:14)
Ist das alles was du zu bieten hast? :banana:


Das ist definitiv mehr, als Sie bringen können, beweisen Sie uns das Gegenteil

А если оппонент задевает Вас за живое, то это очко в его копилку, не Вашу.

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Do you think nato should not exist?


I think that NATO should have never existed.

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Quote (Norlander @ Apr 5 2023 07:40pm)
Das ist definitiv mehr, als Sie bringen können, beweisen Sie uns das Gegenteil

А если оппонент задевает Вас за живое, то это очко в его копилку, не Вашу.



I think that NATO should have never existed.


You dont think the soviets constituted an adequate threat such that it was necessary for countries to band together and form a pact?
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You dont think the soviets constituted an adequate threat such that it was necessary for countries to band together and form a pact?


Soviets Bloc and Warsaw Pact Yes. At that point of time.

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Quote (duffman316 @ 6 Apr 2023 16:27)
You dont think the soviets constituted an adequate threat such that it was necessary for countries to band together and form a pact?


Forcing them to form another pact which should have never existed
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https://www.ft.com/content/119a620c-bf47-4b2f-90a7-5473828c8b16

are you guys able to discuss stuff like this at work?

People seem to be a lot more chill at a place where I work.
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Quote (Malopox @ Apr 6 2023 04:20pm)
https://www.ft.com/content/119a620c-bf47-4b2f-90a7-5473828c8b16

^ofthevoid ^goomshill are you guys able to discuss stuff like this at work?

People seem to be a lot more chill at a place where I work.


I mean it's at least in part half the reason why I hold the position I hold. There is a concentrated effort in the west by the powers that be to mold a persons opinion on this matter. I'm sure it's very similar in China or Russia so don't think they are any better, probably even worse, but here there is something extremely illiberal about shutting down conversation and labeling someone pro-Russian for bringing up any point that's against the neocon hive mind. I just generally chafe when power tries to tell me what to think and tries to somehow overrule my own thought process to deduce how the world works. I'm sure the "pro-Russian" opinions in that conference where something like, hey we're paying way more for energy thoughts on that? Or, hey we're using way more coal and our 'green' policies are out the window in response to try to get off Russian energy thoughts on that? Or the simple fact that sending billions of weapons has not brought us any closer to the end of this war rather, it's raging on harder than before, thoughts on that? Or the fact these bankers see their relationships cutting back on capex/jobs/investments having to factor in much higher input costs from energy.

For example what is unreasonable about this take from the link?

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He said the US government had no interest in a ceasefire as it had the most to gain from a prolonged conflict through a “dramatic increase in EU energy and military dependence on the US”.


These people were just speaking their mind, most very advanced in their careers and I'm sure very intelligent. Literally nothing positive has come out of this war, but stating this or being critical of the wrong side lends you in purgatory a lot of the time. Personally I don't really talk politics at work because I work for a large international bank which champions these current thing ideals. I have a family and ultimately holding down that job is more important than pissing in the wind.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 6 2023 02:41pm
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