Quote (ferdia @ Mar 27 2023 11:40am)

Yes listening to emperor palpatine in german is the only way to watch star wars tbh

Quote (fender @ 27 Mar 2023 16:16)

really? you mean english articles or in general? because there are countless spiegel articles in german you can find about it with just a five second google search. basically every major news outlet has reported on virtually every new development, every speculation and theory regarding the issue.

in general, i'd say we have a pretty diverse media landscape, covering politics from many different (liberal / conservative / socialist / progressive...) angles, and our public broadcasters are rather decent at selecting and presenting news without a partisan slant.
i'm sure anti-vaxxers like ampoo would strongly disagree with that assessment, baselessly claiming they are in cahoots with every party that rejected covid denial and refused to misinform the public in the name of "free speech" (so basically every german party except some fringe right-wing radicals), but when it comes to our major parties, there is not one that has any such direct influence on their reporting as the conservatives have in the UK.

to be clear, i'm not saying everything is perfect here. for example, there is a lot of monopolising going on within the struggling print media, which will inevitably result in a decline of diversity, but again, i don't see our public stations undermined by one particular political party.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 27 2023 11:37pm)

LMAO!!!

A couple of years ago, there was a study which found that almost half of the young, aspiring journalists in our public media lean toward the Greens, a party which has never gotten above 15% in any federal German election. The same study also found that only around 15% of their trainees lean toward any of the parties in the right-half of our country's politcal spectrum - whose parties had a majority of the popular vote in every federal election since 2005.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 27 Mar 2023 23:37)

LMAO!!!

A couple of years ago, there was a study which found that almost half of the young, aspiring journalists in our public media lean toward the Greens, a party which has never gotten above 15% in any federal German election. The same study also found that only around 15% of their trainees lean toward any of the parties in the right-half of our country's politcal spectrum - whose parties had a majority of the popular vote in every federal election since 2005.

Quote (fender @ 28 Mar 2023 01:01)

debunked as the dishonest misrepresentation it is:

https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/studien-mehrfach-missinterpretiert-deutsche-medien-nicht-100.html

simplistically suggesting that findings concerning the personal political leaning (not even party membership) of young journalists is somehow reflected in their reporting is just dumb. you'd have to be more specific to make that case.

if you think our public broadcasters are undermined by one particular party, feel free to name just a simple example. in case you missed the point (probably due to the fact that as a member of the far-right fringe, you're interested in discrediting media, which tends to be critical of fascists): this is about direct political influence, like the tories have on the BBC - not about the voting preferences of young journalists.
just look at the political debates and reporting regarding young climate activists blocking roads or gluing themselves to art pieces for example - there is no favouritism or bias in the reporting of our public broadcasters. the news just report the facts, and the political talkshows are full of people critical of them. so much for your dumb suggestion that our public media is somehow undermined by extremist greens, lol.

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 28 Mar 2023 00:39)

german public broadcasting is a left wing fortress, they dont even hide the blatant government propaganda anymore

Quote (fender @ Mar 27 2023 08:01pm)

x

Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 28 2023 01:39am)

Yeah but...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-election-afd-idUSKBN16012C
^_^

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 28 2023 01:29am)

"Article published by German public media denies that German public media suffers from political bias" :rofl:

There might be a misunderstanding though: I did not claim that our politicians have as much explicit influence on the reporting of public media as in, e.g., the UK. What I said is that the reporting from our public media is heavily biased, both in terms of topic selection (which issues to prioritize, which issues to downplay or bury) and also in terms of how the stories they do report on are framed. Dito for the lopsided selection of guests in talkshows.

This bias comes from our journalist class voluntarily siding with and promoting the viewpoints & arguments of specific parties (most notably the Greens and the Social Democrats). It's caused by a failure in recruiting which isn't corrected by the usual market forces because our public media is abundantly financed from mandatory fees that every household is forced to pay no matter what.

And last but not least, note that this political bias in our public media has existed for far longer than the current left-wing bias. Back in the early 2000s, the media happily participated in the years-long smearing and agitation against the unemployed which paved the way for the "HartzIV reform" (major job market reform which drastically put the screws on the unemployed and, by extension, also dampened the wages of wide swaths of our working population).

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 28 Mar 2023 01:48)

:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN1GEiO1vmI

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 28 Mar 2023 01:29)

"Article published by German public media denies that German public media suffers from political bias" :rofl:

There might be a misunderstanding though: I did not claim that our politicians have as much explicit influence on the reporting of public media as in, e.g., the UK. What I said is that the reporting from our public media is heavily biased, both in terms of topic selection (which issues to prioritize, which issues to downplay or bury) and also in terms of how the stories they do report on are framed. Dito for the lopsided selection of guests in talkshows.

This bias comes from our journalist class voluntarily siding with and promoting the viewpoints & arguments of specific parties (most notably the Greens and the Social Democrats). It's caused by a failure in recruiting which isn't corrected by the usual market forces because our public media is abundantly financed from mandatory fees for every household.

And last but not least, note that this political bias in our public media has existed for far longer than the current left-wing bias. Back in the early 2000s, the media happily participated in the year-long smearing and agitation against the unemployed which paved the way for the "HartzIV reform" (major job market reform which drastically put the screws on the unemployed and, by extension, also dampened the wages of wide swaths of our working population).