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Mar 24 2023 08:02am
Quote (Djunior @ 24 Mar 2023 13:54)
Keep twisting what was said, dishonest trash poster.

Ukraine is getting wrecked and suffers huge losses, if you believe that or not is up to you.




You means the part when you say "You can believe what you want but reality has proven you're wrong " ?

This tactic has been identified already: when you are out of argument you are automatically leveling down to " butt look, the war is horroble much deaths: definitive proof you wrong "





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Mar 24 2023 08:06am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 24 2023 03:02pm)
You means the part when you say "You can believe what you want but reality has proven you're wrong " ?

This tactic has been identified already: when you are out of argument you are automatically leveling down to " butt look, the war is horroble much deaths: definitive proof you wrong "



https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/E77C/production/_127406295_zelensky.jpg

https://eurasiantimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Iran-Russia-1920x1251.jpg


:rofl:

That Shahed drone is over 3 meters long you clown. Source --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136

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The munition is 3.5 metres (11 ft) long with a wingspan of 2.5 metres (8.2 ft), flies at over 185 kilometres per hour (115 mph), and weighs about 200 kilograms (440 lb).[11]


Keep coming back for more, lol


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Quote (Djunior @ 24 Mar 2023 14:06)
:rofl:

That Shahed drone is over 3 meters long you clown. Source --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136



Keep coming back for more, lol


Let me bring you back to "reality"

zelensky is near parts of a shahed-136 .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63421603

but maybe i should post this instead ( high precision missile...)



This post was edited by Meanwhile on Mar 24 2023 08:29am
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 24 2023 03:01pm)
^ferdia, ^ownyaah, ^bananii, ^djunior

Off your head , what are the plausible solutions you think this will gradually stop.


Remove copmoundinterest capitalism, tax the riches and stop scam other countries ressources. Remove patentrights, share all information worldwide...

Some kind of worldwide communism, but with the possibility for earn more if more workpower/studding is invested. But not like 100.000x of some others earns.
Party up worldwide, share informatuon to go for maximal economic way to go forward.

The only reason why this is not an option, cause the riches dont wanna loose all those, they stole from its folks

For example. Im open for discussion ofc

This post was edited by Bananii on Mar 24 2023 08:25am
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 24 2023 02:01pm)
^ferdia, ^ownyaah, ^bananii, ^djunior

Off your head , what are the plausible solutions you think this will gradually stop.


1. Ukraine's counter offensive reclaims all of eastern Ukraine, this year, but not Crimea, and the US pushes for a peace deal with Ukraine in Nato/Neutral. China encourages Russia to accept. There are three serious issues with this plausible solution: (a) Russian resolve - and therefore conscripting more men if the war is not going well (b) American missiles in Ukraine is seen as an existential threat (c) In the event of going home, Russia will feel hard done by, and this may fester similar to the causes of WW2. While I don't believe (c) is relevant, at the national level, its probably relevant at the political level. [ Ukraine win scenario ]

2. Ukraine's counter offensive reclaims all of eastern Ukraine, this year, with Crimea, Russia definitely conscripts 1-2M more men in this scenario (else non-conventional or China military support) and the war drags on for another 2-3 years, and escalates. If Ukraine moves to take Crimea I dont see Russia not conscripting more men. War crimes visible from space until there is no army/people left in Ukraine. Russia may steal larger tracts of Ukraine, or all of it [ Russia win scenario ]

3. Donald Trump runs for president and becomes president, and ultimately tells Ukraine to negotiate with Putin. This would probably fracture the US / EU alliance. Noting that Donald Trump would not only destroy US reputation abroad he would wreck US politic's / Justice system for generations. Therefore, if you want to read between the lines, I cannot envisage Donald Trump ever becoming president of the US again. [ Russia win scenario ]. This to my mind has a 0% chance to occur.

4. A Biden Re-election. Double down on position and war escalates. several commentators suggest that over time the likely hood of a direct confrontation between the US and Russia is more plausible. If that does not happen then eventually in the war of attrition Ukraine would run out of men. [ Russia win scenario ]

5. same as #4 but direct confrontation [ no win scenario, i.e. world war].

6. Any other president - likely to result in #4 above. A republican president (not Trump) might be able to de-escalate. [ Russia win scenario ]

7. Russia dominates battle field and removes Government from capital. [ Russia win scenario ]

8. Russia runs out of bullets or West runs out of bullets = more bullets / hardware will be bought and war continues for years.

#1 and variations of #7 most plausible, in my opinion.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 24 2023 08:48am
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> We will cut off Russia from international banking hurting their banks and financing. It will cripple their economy.

12 months later

>Several US banks and one of the larger European banks just failed

Can’t make this shit up.
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> We will cut off Russia from international banking hurting their banks and financing. It will cripple their economy.

12 months later

>Several US banks and one of the larger European banks just failed

Can’t make this shit up.


do you think the latter indicates that the former hasn't happened? do you think the former caused the latter? what exactly is you point there?

oh right... just a vatnik saying dumb vatnik things...
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 24 2023 02:51pm)
> We will cut off Russia from international banking hurting their banks and financing. It will cripple their economy.

12 months later

>Several US banks and one of the larger European banks just failed

Can’t make this shit up.


Our governments are pretty good at doing things that are not in the long interests of our peoples.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 24 2023 09:12am
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Quote (Djunior @ Mar 24 2023 03:38pm)
You have no clue, are you a purple haired "progressive" who thinks that they're right about everything and the rest of the world must fall in line with their BS?

Russia and China are nuclear powers and they simply exist and they're here to stay. The only option is to accept that and find ways to have normal relations with them just like a couple decades ago when out leaders weren't "progressive" fuckups and negotiated with the Soviets. Facts

You can believe what you want but reality has proven you're wrong, Ukraine is now being wrecked, according to some sources a couple hundred thousand of them are dead, nice job spreading that freedom dude. This gonna be Vietnam 2.0 and it's fucked up


No, i live in a country of high living standards that still maintains conscription for the sole reason that Russia neighbours it. Talk about relations. NATO is very welcome here.

This post was edited by Neptunus on Mar 24 2023 09:33am
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Mar 24 2023 09:32am
Quote (fender @ 24 Mar 2023 16:08)
do you think the latter indicates that the former hasn't happened? do you think the former caused the latter? what exactly is you point there?

oh right... just a vatnik saying dumb vatnik things...


Russian Banks can save our economy :bonk:
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