thank you for that post. IF germany did that, the french would justifiably say "fuck off, this is none of your business, it's a french matter" - and germany would have no right whatsoever to "intervene" (aka murder tens of thousands of innocent civilians in order to conquer foreign territory).

not that it isn't a shitty analogy to begin with. to make it somewhat adequate, you'd have to mention that germany previously sent troops to that part of france in order to start a civil war against the french government - so france wasn't just bombing it for shits and giggles.
also, germany was only looking for an excuse to invade that region of france in order to conquer it - not as a peace mission.

again, the framing you choose to describe situations are so incredibly biased and flawed, i'm really starting to think you're actually paid for your propaganda here - or your ego is just too small to admit you've been had.

friggin war apologist.

This post was edited by fender on Mar 23 2023 11:28am

I myself have zero desire that Ukraine needs to join NATO. I understand why RU doesn't agree or like it.

I do baseline have an issue that countries should be able to decide whether or not they join NATO (free will)
But in this case there are far too many factors to push that agenda IMO. I think that whole topic should be put on hold for now.

Funnily enough if Ukraine was in NATO, this war never happens. Danke mutti Merkel! Blood on her hands all day.

Inb4 we hear that if NATO accepted Ukraine Russia would have invaded, there wouldn't be enough time for Ukraine to join; But then we also hear that Ukraine was immediately about to enter NATO in 2022, and that justifies Russian's war of choice and aggression.

Clown logic.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 23 2023 11:40am

Not exactly, more like that... => But once Ukraine is neutral it would get attacked again by Russia, with proxy terror groups or whatever nasty FSB trick. You know how they are and what they do to undermind our democracies.

Because Saddam and Zelensky are literally identical right? Moronic.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 23 2023 11:42am

no no no, you don't understand - it's a humanitarian mission! russia is saving poor ukrainians who have been mercilessly bombed by their government for absolutely no reason...

ferdia heard so on RT - so it must be true.

yeah but i think more about some gymnastic to move the goal onto US again. Maybe "what about CIA?" etc

So then, what about the Ukrainians living in the Ukrainian Donbas who are being drug into joining Russia by their neighbors? Where's the pragmatism?

Any democracy necessarily involves a majority imposing their will upon a minority. A constitution republic can hedge against the worst impulses of democracy. But when a minority overthrows a government, restoration of a democracy is going to impose that majority will on that minority all over again.

I never claimed that, you're trying to smear me you dishonest drone but all of my posts and your posts are visible for everyone. GTFO