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Mar 23 2023 10:43am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 23 2023 09:42am)
Wut

I suggest you read again before posting more shit replies

Iraq was invaded because of alleged WMD stockpiles...


AND blatantly BS lies of liberating a religious group, or you forgot about that part?
freedom from dictator Saddam?
but you fully believe Putin is in good faith trying to help "nationals" with no other motives.
ok...

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Mar 23 2023 10:44am
Quote (Djunior @ 23 Mar 2023 17:38)
Here we go again lol, lets expose ^Meanwhile as a dishonest trash poster once again.

I slammed you (above posts) because according to you: autonomy for Chechnya = good and autonomy for DPR / LPR = bad. The posts are there to see for everyone.

You have no reply therefor you try to deflect / derail as you always do and everyone can see this, don't worry. You're just a shitty debater that's why you get destroyed again and again, lol


But you "slam" no one , you are just digging yourself into supporting atrocities done by russian army in order to "help separatists" or to "establish order" etc...
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Mar 23 2023 10:46am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 23 2023 04:42pm)
Wut

I suggest you read again before posting more shit replies

Iraq was invaded because of alleged WMD stockpiles...


This was the root cause for the war in Iraq as presented to the nations of the world. Its actually quite sad really, because if they had nuclear weapons in the first place then they would not have been invaded as they had a nuclear deterrent to rely on.

Thats why no one invades north korea.
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Mar 23 2023 10:47am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 23 2023 01:36pm)
There are western reports which clearly outlined the events in eastern ukraine right up until the outbreak of the war, which they are completely ignoring. I cannot fathom this. imagine if france bombed parts of france for years and then germany said, hey hang on stop doing that or we will intervene.

OMG German imperialism!

its like any fact which is inconvenient is simply ignored.


This is why I don't talk to certain users in good faith, they can't agree on the basic facts from the "side" they supposedly support. There is no point in attempting a nuanced discussion with someone who is that uninformed IMO, and they deserve the scorn for caring just enough to moralise but not enough to research.
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Mar 23 2023 10:50am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Mar 23 2023 05:43pm)
AND blatantly BS lies of liberating a religious group, or you forgot about that part?
freedom from dictator Saddam?
but you fully believe Putin is in good faith trying to help "nationals" with no other motives.
ok...


Nowhere did I say that, I replied to Meanwhile who thinks autonomy for Chechnya = good and autonomy for DPR /LPR = bad.

Just read the above posts


Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 23 2023 05:44pm)
But you "slam" no one , you are just digging yourself into supporting atrocities done by russian army in order to "help separatists" or to "establish order" etc...


Wrong, you try to smear people every time but it doesn't work because we can all see your posts.

You should be honest, if you claim that autonomy for Chechnya = good you can't say in the same post that autonomy for DPR / LPR = bad, you can't have it both ways ;)

Too EZ
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Mar 23 2023 10:53am
Djunior, if you wanted to you could also comment, if the purpose of the west was to free the ppl of iraq then (a) why was the bombing of iraq so indiscriminate, (b) why was iraq left as a waste land and (c) why did the US not free the ppl of north korea for the same reason ?



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Mar 23 2023 10:56am
Quote (Djunior @ 23 Mar 2023 17:50)
Nowhere did I say that, I replied to Meanwhile who thinks autonomy for Chechnya = good and autonomy for DPR /LPR = bad.
Just read the above posts
Wrong, you try to smear people every time but it doesn't work because we can all see your posts.
You should be honest, if you claim that autonomy for Chechnya = good you can't say in the same post that autonomy for DPR / LPR = bad, you can't have it both ways ;)
Too eZ


You are clearly claiming that massacres, assassinations, war crimes done on civilians, children, were necesary (and probably well played). Right 100% it was very "Ez" .
I means it's like... You can't stop winning right ?


The Russian intervention in Chechnya was planned long before Shamil Basaev's incursions into Dagestan and the september 1999 attacks in Russia.

Quote (ferdia @ 23 Mar 2023 17:53)
Djunior, if you wanted to you could also comment, if the purpose of the west was to free the ppl of iraq then (a) why was the bombing of iraq so indiscriminate, (b) why was iraq left as a waste land and (c) why did the US not free the ppl of north korea for the same reason ?


Would you like to talk about Gulag or Laogai ? Because i think it's important.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Mar 23 2023 11:00am
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Mar 23 2023 11:13am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 23 2023 05:56pm)
You are clearly claiming that massacres, assassinations, war crimes done on civilians, children, were necesary (and probably well played). Right 100% it was very "Ez" .
I means it's like... You can't stop winning right ?


The Russian intervention in Chechnya was planned long before Shamil Basaev's incursions into Dagestan and the september 1999 attacks in Russia.



Would you like to talk about Gulag or Laogai ? Because i think it's important.


Wanna talk about guantanamo bay?

Yeah thought so


Heuchler

This post was edited by Bananii on Mar 23 2023 11:13am
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Mar 23 2023 11:16am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 23 2023 09:53am)
Djunior, if you wanted to you could also comment, if the purpose of the west was to free the ppl of iraq then (a) why was the bombing of iraq so indiscriminate, (b) why was iraq left as a waste land and (c) why did the US not free the ppl of north korea for the same reason ?


oh look exactly that same as RU currently.. which is exactly my point.
You can't hate the US bombing of Iraq but think this behavior is legit.
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Mar 23 2023 11:24am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Mar 23 2023 05:16pm)
oh look exactly that same as RU currently.. which is exactly my point.
You can't hate the US bombing of Iraq but think this behavior is legit.


its definitely not legit. Russia should pull out of Ukraine and Ukraine needs to declare itself neutral, but then the usuals will say that Ukraine must be in Nato sothat they have a security guarantee, and then the war starts all over again.
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