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Mar 23 2023 10:22am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 23 2023 01:20pm)

End of story.


Ok great, bye!
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Mar 23 2023 10:23am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 23 2023 05:20pm)
Sounds like projection. You are just insulting me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_war_crimes

End of story.


Get your facts strait and stop your shitty deflections, it doesn't work

Chechnya wanted autonomy, source --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War

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The tension between Chechnya and Russia over independence ultimately led to Russian intervention in the republic, in which the Russians covertly tried to oust the government of Dzhokhar Dudayev. The First Chechen War began in 1994, when Russian forces entered Chechnya on the premise of restoring constitutional order.


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Mar 23 2023 10:23am
Quote (ferdia @ 23 Mar 2023 16:56)
Fender, Proximity and their ilk would call all of that fake news, even though it is a historical fact.


lies, fender would (and has, earlier in a post you dodged) point out that it's a dishonest talking point, considering it was russian troops that incited an uprising / civil war in donbas, in order to create an "excuse" for pootin to invade. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas)

you coward can only argue against strawmen, never against actual arguments, lol.

This post was edited by fender on Mar 23 2023 10:24am
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Mar 23 2023 10:27am
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lies, fender would (and has, earlier in a post you dodged) point out that it's a dishonest talking point, considering it was russian troops that incited an uprising / civil war in donbas, in order to create an "excuse" for pootin to invade. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas)

you coward can only argue against strawmen, never against actual arguments, lol.


Wow they must be very persuasive to talk people into an uprising/civil war, I wonder how they convinced them?
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Mar 23 2023 10:28am
Quote (Djunior @ 23 Mar 2023 17:23)
Get your facts strait and stop your shitty deflections, it doesn't work
Chechnya wanted autonomy, source --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War
EZd


Wait a minute... You are justifying Russian atrocities in Chechnya ?

Well this was your choice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War_crimes_and_terrorism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1999%E2%80%932000)
5,000[8]–8,000 civilians killed[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1994%E2%80%931995)
>27,000 civilians killed, including 5,000 children
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Mar 23 2023 10:32am
Anyone: says literally anything

Fender, prox1m1ty, meanwhile, in unison "ARE YOU JUSTIFYING WAR CRIMES :fume: ?!?!?!?!"
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Mar 23 2023 10:33am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 23 2023 09:07am)
Yep

They'll dodge / deflect / derail as per usual, post a "Putin bad" mad rant in reply, calling everyone that doesn't fall in line with them krem bots, bootlickers and mobiks.




Here we go, lol

Chechnya wanted autonomy from Russia just like the ethnic Russians wanted autonomy from Ukraine, you drone.

According to you autonomy for Chechnya = good and autonomy for the Ukrainian republics = bad

See how I destroy your arguments as per usual? GTFO


Ah so with this logic the US was just helping the locals in Iraq gain autonomy right? LOL since the entire logic of this war in UK is debated over past actions..

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Mar 23 2023 10:36am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Mar 23 2023 04:32pm)
Anyone: says literally anything

Fender, prox1m1ty, meanwhile, in unison "ARE YOU JUSTIFYING WAR CRIMES :fume: ?!?!?!?!"



There are western reports which clearly outlined the events in eastern ukraine right up until the outbreak of the war, which they are completely ignoring. I cannot fathom this. imagine if france bombed parts of france for years and then germany said, hey hang on stop doing that or we will intervene.

OMG German imperialism!

its like any fact which is inconvenient is simply ignored. I can readily accept the whole russia is bad, russia invaded, russia commits war crimes, putin is a dictator, thats enough already ? there is no need to add all the bullshit.

"there were no bombings of eastern ukraine, the war is black and white, goodies and baddies, russian imperialism, Nato has nothing to do with this war and we will negotiate when we want to on our terms, and we can fly our planes and do what we want wherever we want" bla bla bla. such utter crap postings/positions that are so easily challenged. brain dead, mind numbingly brain dead positions of arguement.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 23 2023 10:41am
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Mar 23 2023 10:38am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 23 2023 05:28pm)
Wait a minute... You are justifying Russian atrocities in Chechnya ?

Well this was your choice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War_crimes_and_terrorism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1999%E2%80%932000)
5,000[8]–8,000 civilians killed[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1994%E2%80%931995)
>27,000 civilians killed, including 5,000 children


Here we go again lol, lets expose as a dishonest trash poster once again.

I slammed you (above posts) because according to you: autonomy for Chechnya = good and autonomy for DPR / LPR = bad. The posts are there to see for everyone.

You have no reply therefor you try to deflect / derail as you always do and everyone can see this, don't worry. You're just a shitty debater that's why you get destroyed again and again, lol


Quote (fender @ Mar 23 2023 05:23pm)
lies, fender would (and has, earlier in a post you dodged) point out that it's a dishonest talking point, considering it was russian troops that incited an uprising / civil war in donbas, in order to create an "excuse" for pootin to invade. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas)

you coward can only argue against strawmen, never against actual arguments, lol.


Correction: More lies from fender

The unrest started after the 2014 coup (Euromaidan) where the Ukrainian president was toppled because he didn't sign the EU-Ukraine association agreement, source --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan

The occupation of Crimea and unrest in Donetsk and Luhansk followed. Get your facts strait, NATO bot
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Mar 23 2023 10:42am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Mar 23 2023 05:33pm)
Ah so with this logic the US was just helping the locals in Iraq gain autonomy right? LOL since the entire logic of this war in UK is debated over past actions..


Wut

I suggest you read again before posting more shit replies

Iraq was invaded because of alleged WMD stockpiles...
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