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Mar 23 2023 05:06am
Quote (Malopox @ Mar 23 2023 07:03am)
UK announced they will send Depleted Uranium weaponry to Ukraine. If it will ever reach the battlefront it will forever irradiate grain fields of Ukraine so whatever produced there will never ever be accepted for export to western nations. Not to mention the effect of lingering depleted uranium contamination on humans that will be exposed to it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65032671

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/oct/13/world-health-organisation-iraq-war-depleted-uranium


Pretty sure the millions of artillery shell fragments in the arable land will probably make your point null.
You the know best way to avoid any of what you are alluding to? Pull Russian troops out of Ukraine.

Imagine that logic. Morons.
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Mar 23 2023 05:11am
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Pretty sure the millions of artillery shell fragments in the arable land will probably make your point null.
You the know best way to avoid any of what you are alluding to? Pull Russian troops out of Ukraine.

Imagine that logic. Morons.


I know it’s going to sound hard to believe - but exploded shells are not really a concern. Metal can be raked out of the soil after the war ends. Phosphorous used in ammo is actually a fertilizer (hence a debate about sanctioning Russian fertilizers which are essentially dual use). Neither metal nor phosphorous contaminate the grains that grow on that soil.

You can’t rake dispersed depleted uranium out of your soil - it requires incredibly expensive topsoil removal which nobody will bother with.
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Mar 23 2023 05:15am
Quote (Malopox @ Mar 23 2023 11:11am)
I know it’s going to sound hard to believe - but exploded shells are not really a concern. Metal can be raked out of the soil after the war ends. Phosphorous used in ammo is actually a fertilizer (hence a debate about sanctioning Russian fertilizers which are essentially dual use). Neither metal nor phosphorous contaminate the grains that grow on that soil.

You can’t rake dispersed depleted uranium out of your soil - it requires incredibly expensive topsoil removal which nobody will bother with.


Its irrelevant at this point. Ukraine is gone as a global food exporter. Nobody is driving tractors through minefields.

Apart from the ones towing T-62's that the mobiks left behind

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 23 2023 05:16am
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Mar 23 2023 05:29am
Im scoring that Malopox 1 Proximity 0 noting Malopox refuted Proximity's claims re: artillery fire and Proximity had no reasonable response, but rather a deflection. The counter response of course is the billions of agreed (as we noted yesterday) investment into Ukraine by the EU with alot more in the pipeline.

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Im scoring that Malopox 1 Proximity 0 noting Malopox refuted Proximity's claims re: artillery fire and Proximity had no reasonable response, but rather a deflection. The counter response of course is the billions of agreed (as we noted yesterday) investment into Ukraine by the EU with alot more in the pipeline.


Nobody cares, wannabe moderator vibes. Your a pathetic enabler of those supporting Russia. Get a life.
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Nobody cares, wannabe moderator vibes. Your a pathetic enabler of those supporting Russia. Get a life.


The point here is that your arguments are unsound. Therefore a record and acknowledgement for same at this point is recommended. To tie this back into the topic, actions have consequences.
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Mar 23 2023 06:26am
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The point here is that your arguments are unsound. Therefore a record and acknowledgement for same at this point is recommended. To tie this back into the topic, actions have consequences.


Your opinion is worth less than nothing. Utter enabler. Pathetic.

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 23 2023 12:26pm)
Your opinion is worth less than nothing. Utter enabler. Pathetic.

As good as a collaborator


I enable and support everyone from all positions to post here, including you. I try to be cordial to those that want meaningful discussion, and to those that dont I have a degree of tolerance. I have been called everything under the sun by Pro-russian users and called everything under the sun by pro Nato users. Your confusing this approach with being an enabler / agenda driven. If there is an agenda, it would be to have less extremist views (both sides) and for acceptance that this war is not black and white. Broadly I dont have animosity to anyone in the topic noting you each represent a position mirrored outside of this thread. As another user said recently, gravitating towards the middle from extremes is the ultimate aim and its clear that in main stream media there is 0 interest in this. So if not in the media/politic's, what chance in a forum.

Not knowing, not heeding, and ignoring the views of the opposing side is a recipe for misunderstanding and war in all its forms. Ignoring the other sides concerns and simply dictating and dismissing another ideology/culture/political position / redline is a fundamental problem. You clearly fall into this category (which is in line with western narrative, and in this regard you represent the US, Nato and the EU very well).

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 23 2023 06:42am
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I enable and support everyone from all positions to post here, including you. I try to be cordial to those that want meaningful discussion, and to those that dont I have a degree of tolerance. I have been called everything under the sun by Pro-russian users and called everything under the sun by pro Nato users. Your confusing this approach with being an enabler / agenda driven. If there is an agenda, it would be to have less extremist views (both sides) and for acceptance that this war is not black and white. As another user said recently, gravitating towards the middle from extremes is the ultimate aim. Sure thats an agenda.

Not knowing, not heeding, and ignoring the views of the opposing side is a recipe for misunderstanding and war in all its forms. Ignoring the other sides concerns and simply dictating and dismissing another ideology is a fundamental problem and quite frankly you clearly fall into this category.


Pathetic enabler. See above post.

The thread is there as proof for anyone to see.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Mar 23 2023 06:39am
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I made a couple of edits but I accept you really dont care.

Ultimately, there is a vocal minority in the political and academic field on the planet, who are not pro-russian or anti US, that have raised serious questions relating to the causes and purpose of this war, nevermind where it will end. A catagory of people question what we are being told and why this war was not averted.

I and others (granted not many in this topic) fall into that category.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 23 2023 06:46am
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