Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 22 2022 01:02pm)

Well, that's the problem: besides economic sanctions, what exactly could we "do about it"? Military action against a country in possession of thousands of nukes and ICBMs is not really a feasible option, so trying to dry up their funding and arming their opponents with defensive weapons are about the only things we can do.

Also, the way Russia is struggling with Ukraine, a rundown shithole, doesn't suggest that they would have the power to push further west, into Poland and potentially towards Germany. Poland has about the same population size as Ukraine, a much stronger economy, a much better equipped military and hates the Russians just as much. The developments in Ukraine have made it perfectly clear that Russia wouldn't be able to win a conventional war against the EU, even if the U.S./NATO stay out.

Quote (ferdia @ 22 Mar 2022 18:20)

OK, so this goes back to the origins of this thread, which most users in this thread disagree with me on. I would have it that America policies (in tandem with Russia's security concerns) over the last decade led to this conflict. I would expect that a bright spark in China, not being involved, would see it more clearly then those in the West, that Russia would invade. Thats why they are not sanctioning Russia, because they accept Russia's own security concerns (they have stated this already). Whether a backroom deal was made between Russia and China in the last 6 months to my mind, is irrelevant. I dont even know what kind of deal they would make, or have a need for one, they are not enemies. China is standing aside from the western narrative which would have it that Putin woke up one morning insane and decided to invade a country, unprovoked, because he is a power hungry putler that wants to take over the world.

if that makes sense ?

^Lebanon961

Quote (babun1024 @ 22 Mar 2022 13:03)

Russia also seems to know where legionnaires are. Every single time, they destroy bases with legionnaires from afar.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 22 Mar 2022 21:02)

Well, that's the problem: besides economic sanctions, what exactly could we "do about it"? Military action against a country in possession of thousands of nukes and ICBMs is not really a feasible option, so trying to dry up their funding and arming their opponents with defensive weapons are about the only things we can do.

Also, the way Russia is struggling with Ukraine, a rundown shithole, doesn't suggest that they would have the power to push further west, into Poland and potentially towards Germany. Poland has about the same population size as Ukraine, a much stronger economy, a much better equipped military and hates the Russians just as much. The developments in Ukraine have made it perfectly clear that Russia wouldn't be able to win a conventional war against the EU, even if the U.S./NATO stay out.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 22 Mar 2022 21:50)

There's very certainly traitors on both sides. Just one side deserve to exctinct its leadership and join west later.

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Super news:

China says it will offer 10 million yuan more of humanitarian aid to Ukraine

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-says-it-will-offer-10-mln-yuan-more-humanitarian-aid-ukraine-2022-03-21/

==$1.57 million .................................

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 22 Mar 2022 13:57)

To be honest from a world view, those are pathetic numbers considering Leonardo Di Caprio donated 10m USD
But in a way I can understand why the same amount every now and then, if they donate too much it will look bad with the Russians

And they probably will donate similar amount to the Russians too.
And if they donate too much to the Russians the world will say the Chinese are supporting the invasion.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 22 Mar 2022 22:08)

Diplomatically A/ ridiculously greedy OR B/ assholes.
Or boths.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 22 2022 01:48pm)

Do you think Putin is some how physically sick like his time is coming up. There are some people whom know that their time is coming up so they try to make a last push before they are gone forever just to try and cement their place in history.
China's Relationship hasn't been stable and I guess its only during this 10 or 15 years that they have gotten closer because of US's foreign policies...

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 22 2022 02:25am)

It's Europe that's bearing the economic brunt of this war. They are the ones doing far more trade with Russia than the U.S., they are the ones who depend on Russian gas and oil, they are the ones who will have to shoulder almost all of the costs of housing millions of Ukrainian refugees.